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It's my first post here, so I want to say hello :)
I want to make photoscenery of my hometown, and I've found SBuilder very good, and powerful tool. I've succesfully aligned phototextures, but I have few questions.
1. Is it possible to add landclass area over photoscenery? I'd like to add few places with forests, and urban areas.
2. How to get rid of default roads?
3. How to add a small lake?
4. I'd like to use RWY12 object libraries with SBuilder, I have RWY12 installed, and working, but SBuiler doesn't recognize it (I have set correct path to RWY)
I know these are noobish questions, but this is my first scenery :)
And sorry for my English :)
Thanks!
1) You can do this with polygons.
2) Make an exclude polygon and exclude layer 6 (I think).
3) You can do this with a water mask or a line and polygon.
3. How to add a small lake?
Start Sbuilder, click new, this box will come up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Sbuilder1.jpg
Type the name for your project. Click OK
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Sbuilder2.jpg
Start FS9 & go to any location. Place the aircraft on the ground and note the elevation. Click view, show aircraft.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Sbuilder3.jpg
You'll see a crosshair which is your aircrafts location in FS9.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Sbuilder4.jpg
The location in FS9
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Sbuilder5.jpg
Click poly.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Sbuilder6.jpg
Click the left mouse button and draw an object, left clicking as you go. Right click to complete the object.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Sbuilder7.jpg
Right click on the object line to bing up a menu box.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Sbuilder8.jpg
Click properties.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Sbuilder9.jpg
This menu will come up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Sbuilder10.jpg
Type the name of the polygon and click LWM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Sbuilder11.jpg
This menu will come up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Sbuilder12.jpg
Type the altitude for the lake in the blue box. I typed in 770.8 metres for my location. Click change. Click OK
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Sbuilder13.jpg
Click select, all polygons.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Sbuilder14.jpg
You'll note the polygon dots have changed colour.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Sbuilder15.jpg
Click BGL, this box will pop up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Sbuilder16.jpg
Click copy files to BGL folders. ( you can choose any folder you want to have your files located by clicking on file, properties, folders, on the top menu bar of Sbuilder.)
Click compile.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Sbuilder17.jpg
Place the file that Sbuilder compiled into an active folder in the Addon Scenery folder in FS9.
Save your flight in FS9 so you can come back to your location. Close FS9, start FS9, choose your saved flight & you should see a new lake.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Sbuilder20.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Sbuilder21.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Sbuilder22.jpg
Last thing to do is add a shoreline using the line tool.
I've got a guide for that too if you're interested
Luis_Sá
06 Mar 2007, 17:24
Hello,
Nice and simple example! Thank you,
Luis
Wow! Thats a great tutorial!
Thanks very much!
Guide for shorelines would be great too.
Making a shoreline for your lake.
Right click the poly, this menu will come up, click onto Properties.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Shoreline003.jpg
This menu will come up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Shoreline004.jpg
Click the General tab, click Make Line.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Shoreline005.jpg
Click Line.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Shoreline006.jpg
Right click the line, this menu will come up, click Properties
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Shoreline008.jpg
This menu will come up, type the line name, click VTP2.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Shoreline009.jpg
Click Assembled, click into the long white box to the left of Assembled, this window will come up. Choose your shoreline texture. Click Ok.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Shoreline009a.jpg
Your chosen texture will appear.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Shoreline010.jpg
Click the Points tab. In the Set Width box type 80 (or any number you like) click Change, click Ok.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Shoreline011.jpg
Click Select, click All Lines.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Shoreline16.jpg
Click BGL, click Copy files to BGL folders.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Shoreline18.jpg
Place the file that Sbuilder compiled into an active folder in the Addon Scenery folder in FS9. Go to your lake & check out your new shoreline.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Shoreline23.jpg
José Bourgoignie
13 Mar 2007, 01:21
You are a hero ! Thanks ! :)
Greetz. José.
José Bourgoignie
13 Mar 2007, 02:04
Hi,
Have still a question...
The fact is that a scener in FSX is different and better than the one in FS9 for the part that I want to change into the same scenery as in FSX.
Is it possible to use the FSX scenery and make this lake for FS9 (as a copy or overwriting with SBuilder ?).
Or can I use a screenshot ? Or... ?
Greetz. José.
José Bourgoignie
14 Mar 2007, 07:42
Hi,
Still not found: can I take a screenshot in FSX and use it in FS9 + SBuilder and make the changes ? Which format must the bitmap have ? How to do scale and fit into the FS9 scenery ? How to place a background image in SBuilder for FS9 ? Or is that impossible ?
Question 2: If the scenery has an altitude of let's say 13 ft and I set the water poly altitude on zero (sealevel)... will this be displayed or have I to do more such as exclude ?
Greetz. José.
4. I'd like to use RWY12 object libraries with SBuilder, I have RWY12 installed, and working, but SBuiler doesn't recognize it (I have set correct path to RWY)
Thanks!
I have the same problem i´ve tried everything with the Rwy 12 path, didn´t work
scruffyduck
14 Mar 2007, 09:11
I have the same problem i´ve tried everything with the Rwy 12 path, didn´t work
Can you explain a bit more what the problem is? You need to point to the RWY12 folder that contains the XML as I recall
José Bourgoignie
14 Mar 2007, 14:15
Hi,
I just tried to make a little lake.
Have a question:
I typed in 770.8 metres for my location.
Living in Belgium (Europe), must I not set the altitude = 770,8 meter (with a comma) ?
Because there is plenty of water elsewhere but not in a lake.
Greetz. José.
Well the Rwy 12 objects window is NOT active in the sbuilder, only the library objects is, the path is set correctly but sbuilder does not recognizes it
Gus
PD i can use ScenGenx anyway to do that, the thing is the background bitmap calibration tool in sbuilder is better than the "manual window" in SGX, not a big deal though.
Hi,
I just tried to make a little lake.
Have a question:
Living in Belgium (Europe), must I not set the altitude = 770,8 meter (with a comma) ?
Because there is plenty of water elsewhere but not in a lake.
Greetz. José.
No, don't use a comma, use a decimal point.
http://www.ptsim.com/sbuilder/gmaps.htm - Help with obtaining calibrated images
http://www.fs-freeflow.com/forum2/index.php?topic=1376.0 - Help with obtaining calibrated images
http://www.fs-freeflow.com/forum2/index.php?topic=618.0 - Help with obtaining calibrated images
Placing a calibrated map into Sbuilder.
Start Sbuilder, click New, type the name for your project.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Tassie-Lakes.jpg
Click Map. Left click anywhere in the Sbuilder window.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Tassie-Lakes2.jpg
Locate the folder with your calibrated map, click Open.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Tassie-Lakes3.jpg
Your map will show up in Sbuilder, click OK.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Tassie-Lakes4.jpg
This Box will come up, enter your co-ordinates into the N,S,W,E, boxes. I prefer to use Lat/Lon in decimal degrees.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Tassie-Lakes5.jpg
Click Create Data File.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Tassie-Lakes5a-1.jpg
Sbuilder will save a text file in the same folder you have the map bmp. If you do not do this your calibration will be lost the next time you open Sbuilder.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Tassie-Lakes5b.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Tassie-Lakes5c.jpg
Click OK to close the Box & place the map.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Tassie-Lakes5.jpg
You will most likely be left with a blank screen.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Tassie-Lakes6.jpg
Don't worry, your map is just in a different location than you. Click View, Go to Position.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Tassie-Lakes7.jpg
This Box will come up, copy & paste your North & West co-ordinatates from the text file Sbuilder saved in your map bmp folder into the Lat Lon boxes. North for Lat, West for Lon.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Tassie-Lakes8.jpg
Click the Convert button to the right of the Lat Lon boxes. Click ok.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Tassie-Lakes9.jpg
You'll be transported to the location of your map.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Tassie-Lakes10.jpg
Press & hold the wheel button of your mouse to move the map. Use the wheel to zoom in & out.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Tassie-Lakes11.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Tassie-Lakes12.jpg
Click the Poly button & start tracing out your new lake.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/martybuzz/Tassie-Lakes13.jpg
José Bourgoignie
14 Mar 2007, 16:15
Hi,
Have tested it with a comma and there was indeed no change.
Maybe the altitude is wrong. All the screenshot I see of a lake are situated in mountains. However nearby my location is another lake and the area is rather flat.
If I notice the altitude with a Cessna, should I use the mentioned altitude of is that too high ?
As I said: the lake itself is not displayed but outside the exclude area is plenty of water.
Regards. José.
scruffyduck
14 Mar 2007, 16:38
Well the Rwy 12 objects window is NOT active in the sbuilder, only the library objects is, the path is set correctly but sbuilder does not recognizes it
Ah you must select the RWY12 option from the General tab ( the first one that comes up when you try to place an object) other wise the RWY12 tabe will be greyed out. You cannot just select the tab.
Hi,
Have tested it with a comma and there was indeed no change.
Maybe the altitude is wrong. All the screenshot I see of a lake are situated in mountains. However nearby my location is another lake and the area is rather flat.
If I notice the altitude with a Cessna, should I use the mentioned altitude of is that too high ?
As I said: the lake itself is not displayed but outside the exclude area is plenty of water.
Regards. José.
Place the aircraft on the ground and note the altitude. Use that altitude for your lake. You can make a flatten and use the flatten altitude for the lake.
José Bourgoignie
14 Mar 2007, 19:33
Hi,
I will try the flatten.
Regards. José.
José Bourgoignie
15 Mar 2007, 03:56
Hi,
Have made my lake and see that it would be helpfull to have a way to measure the dimention of the lake. It's too large.
Didn't use a flatten.
In the tutorial here in this topic a poly is drawn around the aircraft. Is it perhaps better to displace the aircraft and then mark a poly ?
Sorry: Have found via Google a topic about the SBuilder measure tool.
e) Measure Tool added to the Edit Menu. It works in Pointer, Line, Poly or Object modes. You can toggle between "measuring" and "normal" modes by pressing the M key. The Escape key or the right mouse click also exit the "measuring" mode. You get a distance in meters or feet (depending on the parameter MeasuringMeters = True/False in the INI file). While you are making a measurement, you can Pan or Zoom (but with the mouse wheel only). The Heading as well as the Latitude and Longitude of the centre point are also shown. When, in Object mode, you make a measurement, the next placed Object is initiated with the Heading of the measurement.
Hope that will solve the problem....
Regards. José.
José Bourgoignie
15 Mar 2007, 09:10
Hi,
Can someone do the test and make a small lake inside an addon scenery airport ? Cannot figure out how I make appear a lake. Outside the airport area making the lake is OK. This is for FS2004. :(
Regards. José.
Ah you must select the RWY12 option from the General tab ( the first one that comes up when you try to place an object) other wise the RWY12 tabe will be greyed out. You cannot just select the tab.
Oops!! yes you were right, thanks for the help
José Bourgoignie
16 Mar 2007, 01:21
Hi,
Can someone do the test and make a small lake inside an addon scenery airport ?
Have got an answer on ww.ptsim.com and... it cannot be done. :confused:
Regards. José.
abckurt
16 Mar 2007, 05:55
Has anyone experience with modifiyng landclass, colors, GUID. I tried (newbie foolish U knever know it may work) changing the color code into 00000000(thats black I think), changed the name and GUID(don´t know the right type of GUID) but no result..
Sbuilder for FSX
Changing name works, I have a new landclass.:D
Luis_Sá
16 Mar 2007, 09:49
Hello,
The color is AARRGGBB so your 00000000 is completely transparent black!
Luis
Hi, I followed the tutorial for the lake and everything went fine until I started compilation of the bgl.........it never did it. Am I missing some parts in the program????...........I have asked this in the program's forum but no answer there.:(
Luis_Sá
13 Apr 2007, 00:23
Hello,
You need to select items before compiling. Only selected items are compiled!
Kind Regards.
Luis
Fsim63........
Have followed your turorial for making the lake in Sbuilder but at the end the program does not generate the Bgl file...I tried it for other polygons and the same.....can you tell be what is wrong. Do I have to have add aditional programs to go along with Sbuilder to generate the bgl???...Oh Luis, I have selected all and still it does not compile.
Luis_Sá
16 Apr 2007, 22:21
Hello,
May be you can export your project as a SBX file and send it to me for inspection (ptsim at ptsim dot com)
Regards, Luis
Hello,
May be you can export your project as a SBX file and send it to me for inspection (ptsim at ptsim dot com)
Regards, Luis
Ciao Luis...........
It was all may fault, I did not have things in the right folders!!, I downloaded from Jon´s site the Tutorial on how to install SBuilder and everything just worked great!!!.....Thank you, the program is real nice.:)
Great information on this thread...
How about getting over onto the WIKI? When you have time, of course.:p
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