Can't install SDK on Win 7

[ranbd]

Hi guys
i was trying to install FSX SDK on a 64 bit win 7 machine.
Are there are known issues with it ?
It created all the relevant directories, but that's about it.

Let me know

Thanks

[hairyspin]

Turn off the UAC - or better still, install to a directory outside of Program Files (x86).

[littleMax]

Yep dont install in C:\program files

and some other hints http://fsdeveloper.com/wiki/index.php?title=SDK_Installation_%28FSX%29

Ähm.. and what is exactly your problem?

[Tejal Bernardo]

Installation of the Fsx in C:/programs make a lot of problems, the order and completness of ths Sdk service update installation is important too, and then check the installation in the Dll file in the C:/users/name/Appdata/Roaming/Microsoft/FSX
............
<Launch.Addon>
<Name>Object Placement Tool</Name>
<Disabled>false</Disabled>
<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
<Path>D:\Flight Simulator X\SDK\Mission Creation Kit\object_placement.dll</Path>
</Launch.Addon>
<Launch.Addon>
<Name>Traffic Toolbox</Name>
<Disabled>false</Disabled>
<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
<Path>D:\Flight Simulator X\SDK\Environment Kit\Traffic Toolbox SDK\traffictoolbox.dll</Path>
</Launch.Addon>
<Launch.Addon>
<Name>Visual Effects Tool</Name>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
<Path>D:\Flight Simulator X\SDK\Environment Kit\Special Effects SDK\visualfxtool.dll</Path>
</Launch.Addon>
More or less... As good news I must say once the installation is Ok all will work pretty well

[ranbd]

1. I re-installed outside of PF directory.

My issue, after installing the SDK Tools do not appear in the menu.
no DLL was created in C:\Users\ran\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX

I installed FSX + sp 1 + sp2 , and SDK sp 1 + 2.

Any ideas ?

[littleMax]

Did you followed the installtions hints like on the wiki page?

If so the next step is this site
http://fsdeveloper.com/wiki/index.php?title=SDK_Installation_%28FSX%29_-_Troubleshooting

These parts should be very important for you:
Configuration (http://fsdeveloper.com/wiki/index.php?title=SDK_Installation_%28FSX%29_-_Troubleshooting#Configuration)

Editing (http://fsdeveloper.com/wiki/index.php?title=SDK_Installation_%28FSX%29_-_Troubleshooting#Editing)

[Tejal Bernardo]

" ...Viewing
.xml files are hidden by default.

To see dll.xml you must have enabled Show Hidden Files and Folders.
Could be that ?¡¡:confused:

[lionheart]

Are you looking for FSX tools in Gmax? If so, go into Scripts, start a script, and locate the FSX Tools script. You will probably have to do it 3 to 4 times before it activates, and shows on the top toolbar. Every now and then, it will auto-show, perhaps 3 times in a row, then stops altogether again for another cycle..

[lionheart]

Question. Are we good to go with creating a Programs folder in Win7 64 (or 86) and installing the SDK there, or will that cause conflicts?

I have been hearing that creation of a Program Files folder in Win7 64 is the route to go.


I do not have Win7 yet, but plan on getting it in the near future. It would be nice to have this information ready when the switch over is made.

[hcornea]

I think the best (simplest) thing to do is to jump off the C: drive altogether.

Simply change the drive letter to (D: in my case) for FSX and the SDK.

This keeps the frequently changing FSX files off your system drive, and enables you to customise your storage based on developing needs (ie SSD, RAID array, Velociraptors, or whatever)

So everytime I install a new Lionheart plane, I don't have to worry about running out of FSX space! If I do, I can simply upgrade my FSX volume!

Source files live on a third drive for me (Gmax files, source textures, photoreal source psb files etc)

Bill. I love Win7 x64 now. It is simply the best option out there. There is no tool or driver that does not work for me (so far)

[arno]

Hi,

I have all my FS related files in C:\flightsim and that works fine. It is a long time ago that I decided to not use the program files folder :).

[Golf-HotelDelta]

With W7 you may find it impossible to use Windows Explorer to browse to the SDK folder. If this happens, use FreeCommander to browse the DVD.

[Golf-HotelDelta]

There is no tool or driver that does not work for me (so far)

Hmm, my favourite (paid for) Visual C++ .NET 7 doesn't work on W7 :mad:

[hairyspin]

Question. Are we good to go with creating a Programs folder in Win7 64 (or 86) and installing the SDK there, or will that cause conflicts?

I have been hearing that creation of a Program Files folder in Win7 64 is the route to go.

I do not have Win7 yet, but plan on getting it in the near future. It would be nice to have this information ready when the switch over is made.

Bill, 64-bit Windows 7 has two program folders: one is for 32-bit programs - Program Files (x86) - and the other for 64-bit programs - Program Files.

Both folders are protected by the system under the User Access Control (UAC) and unless you turn the UAC off, it constantly nags you any time a file is created, modified or deleted in either of these folders or any of their sub-folders. You can imagine how wearisome this gets while developing.

If FSX, its SDK, gmax etc are installed to a folder outwith these program folders, this hassle is avoided. BTW, I too am a fan of Windows 7 and highly recommend it.
HTH


@Golf-HotelDelta: that's why I retained XP on another HD and run a dual-boot system.

[hcornea]

Even WITH UAC off you can run into "permissions issues". Move the folder and have a simple life.

There is also "XP Mode" for those die-hard applications that won't run.

One of the applications we use at work requires IE6 to work (runs quite nicely in a virtual shell)

[n4gix]

If you are the only user of the computer, set your account's security levels to "Super Administrator."

Also, there is a little known special username that WinXP, Vista, and Win7 will allow: "Everyone." I set up global permission for "Everyone" to have full read/write access to every nook and cranny of every hard drive on every computer.

Problems solved.

Even so, I still install everything sim related to anywhere besides the stinking ..\Program Files areas.

Since I now have a total of eight computers on my local network, I need to have the ability to access any folder on any computer from any computer I happen to be sitting at! :eek:

[Golf-HotelDelta]

None of the above will help if you cannot browse the DVDs ;)

[n4gix]

None of the above will help if you cannot browse the DVDs ;)

I've never encountered that problem with any of the three OS's I run here. I just installed the FSX Acceleration SDK on a brand new i7-2600k running Win7 Home Premium with no problems at all.

[Golf-HotelDelta]

It happened to me after a W7 update which I was able to uninstall. However, it re-ocurred after installing SP1.

[n4gix]

It happened to me after a W7 update which I was able to uninstall. However, it re-ocurred after installing SP1.

It seems like Microsoft can't help themselves. With every "update" they manage to break something else... :rolleyes:

[Golf-HotelDelta]

It seems like Microsoft can't help themselves. With every "update" they manage to break something else... :rolleyes:

Too right. There is a guy on Avsim having the same problem.

[Golf-HotelDelta]

Too right. There is a guy on Avsim having the same problem.

... and FreeCommander worked for him :D

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/345010-tried-to-install-fsx-sdk/page__pid__2080422#entry2080422

[bobbyjack]

Those of you having problems, are you using a full install, or an upgrade of Windows?

Bob

[Golf-HotelDelta]

Those of you having problems, are you using a full install, or an upgrade of Windows?

Bob

Virgin install on a new computer.

[PakMac]

With W7 you may find it impossible to use Windows Explorer to browse to the SDK folder. If this happens, use FreeCommander to browse the DVD.

I copied the SDK folder to my desktop, installation went like a dream afterwards.

David

[Whirler]

If you are the only user of the computer, set your account's security levels to "Super Administrator."

Also, there is a little known special username that WinXP, Vista, and Win7 will allow: "Everyone." I set up global permission for "Everyone" to have full read/write access to every nook and cranny of every hard drive on every computer.

Problems solved.

Even so, I still install everything sim related to anywhere besides the stinking ..\Program Files areas.

Since I now have a total of eight computers on my local network, I need to have the ability to access any folder on any computer from any computer I happen to be sitting at! :eek:

n4gix, have I told you recently that you are a LIFESAVER!!??

I just spent 2 frustrating hours trying in vain to install the FSX Accleration SDK on my Win7x64 PC, (I am interested in trying out SBuilderX313) and wondering why the (heck) neither of its optical drives could properly read the SDK folder on the #1 disc (when a WinXP notebook instantly reads it just fine). In frustration I Googled the issue and landed here. You guys just saved my evening! :) Now, on to the other jewels in this post. :D

I am definitely going to give user "Everyone" a try, but please do tell me about how to use "Super Administrator". I have never heard of it. And the whole "permissions" issue I keep bumping against with Win7 is THE primary complaint I have about it. That, and the inability to share ANY folder on the Win7x64 PC with all the XP rigs elsewhere on my LAN. It sounds like you have hit on some miraculous solutions to these headaches. Do tell! :)

(If there is a way to 'copy' a user, and then set it as Super Administrator, or change that setting on an existing user, that is what I want to do). Not meaning to hijack this thread, so please PM me on this if you prefer

[n4gix]

This article explains the very simple (but secret) method(s) of activating the Super Administrator security level:

How To Activate Windows 7 or Vista Secret Super Administrator Account. (http://www.winvistaclub.com/t12.html)

As for networking with XP machines, the simplest way is to change the network Home Group setting on the Win7 machine.

By default, the XP machines will be set for the @HOME group. Once you've reset the Win7 machine to the same Group, reboot it.

Now open Windows Explorer, highlight the C:\ folder, right-click and create a Share. Right-click again and set the Permissions for C:\ for full access for the user named "Everyone." Done!

[Whirler]

Thanks for the reply. I found that exact same website and used it last night. I 'think' it worked, but for some reason the super administrator account it creates is just named "administrator". I changed the name to something else and put a password on it. I then ran down the primrose path of having a corruption on my user accounts, so had to edit the registry to fix that before I could log in with each account set up on this PC. But eventually I got it all worked out.

So far I have managed to share a folder on this Windows 7 PC which I just chose at random on a non-C drive and write files to it from a different XP machine. That worked (which definitely didn't work the day I installed Windows 7 and learned I was being "forced" to share ONLY files and subfolders under C\users\public. What a load of crap!)

I have several physical drives in the computers, and several partitions on each of the drives, comprising an organization of file types I have used for years. So I am in the habit of sharing specific folders that I want shared. Just sharing a C drive would not suffice for me. I didn't like having to run all my file transfers through a single folder on the C drive to access the Win7 PC. So I am FINALLY free of that restriction! :D

I have not yet tried the "Everyone" user name. I wonder if that would work for access to the PCs on my LAN from an Android smartphone? Or does it only work between Windows machines?

Oddly (no one has been able to tell me why) the file explorer I use on the Android phone has always been able to wirelessly read and write to EVERY file on my Windows 7 PC, across the same wifi/LAN which restricts any Windows XP PC from accessing other than the Win7 PC "public" folder. Just goes to show that all the security paranoia with Windows Permissions is pointless, if it can be simply bypassed by a smartphone without even trying. ;)

I have never used the work group named "HOME" by default in XP. I have a different work group name I use. As such, I was not able to get Windows 7, with its "Home Group" settings to share files over the LAN when I first installed Windows 7. Each LAN PC can, of course, SEE the files because they are all in the same group I named, but an XP rig was never able to ACCESS the files aside from the aforementioned single folder on the Win7 rig. Until now. :) THANKS!

I should not need to make any changes to the work group settings now (hopefully). Time will tell.

So, I learned how to copy one user profile to another (which, again, required a 3rd party tool because Windows 7 'disables' the button needed to be pressed to do that :rolleyes: ) and I managed to copy my user account over to the superadministrator account. At least, on the surface. But some of the things did not copy (like the programmed macros for my Logitech G11 keyboard). Is there a way to actually "clone all the settings" so I don't have to run through and do all the many customizations I use all over again on the new "super" account?

[Whirler]

With W7 you may find it impossible to use Windows Explorer to browse to the SDK folder. If this happens, use FreeCommander to browse the DVD.

THANK YOU!!! I spent 2 frustrating hours going :speanut::speanut::speanut::speanut::speanut:s "debugging" this non-hardware issue until I found your post. FreeCommander works like a charm on Windows 7x64. I'll never understand why Micro$oft finds it necessary to do stuff like this.

[Golf-HotelDelta]

The only drive on W7 I cannot access directly from XP is the C: drive. But I can access \Users\Admin\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft and \ProgramData\Microsoft\FSX, so I can read/write from/to FSX files.

[Whirler]

No longer a problem, thanks to you good folks! I just wrote a file from a networked XP PC to a shared folder on a Win7 C drive. :)

[n4gix]

I have never used the work group named "HOME" by default in XP. I have a different work group name I use.

Is there a way to actually "clone all the settings" so I don't have to run through and do all the many customizations I use all over again on the new "super" account?

What is important is that all the networked machines use the same Work Group, not that any specific name be used. Since my network includes a few Win98 machines as well, @HOME has always been my Work Group name... ;)

So, I have Win98, Vista32, Vista64, and Win7x64 machines all sharing their files back and forth. I can access (nearly*) anything, anywhere, from any machine, which was my overall goal.

I simply made my one and only User Account the Super Administrator, so I never ran into any problems. Of course I don't have any customizations at all, so perhaps that's one of the reasons for having no problems! :cool:

*NB: The only folders I can't access are the various machine's ..\Windows folders, which is probably a good thing. :D

[Whirler]

It is so refreshing to meet someone else who doesn't ascribe to the all too typical closed minded viewpoint of "that's just the way it is and you should embrace permissions". :) Clearly your world has not ended because you don't bow down to 'permissions' on all those computers. Some people can't seem to ever climb out of the 'corporate' mind-controlled box. The view is defnitely better from up here!

Thanks!

[Whirler]

Can GMAx be installed from the same disk I used for SDK? I read something about installing SDK 'uninstalls' Gmax (but I did not already have it installed).

What's the best way to get GMax up and running here on Win7?

[n4gix]

Of course it can. But, since you already have it installed and (now) working, I guess you've figured it out... :cool:

[Whirler]

You peeked! :D

Sorry, I posted this before I ran across a thread that not only had a download link to the files, but also explained that they are forever entombed on the FSX ACCEL setup discs. I'm glad you saw that I had it installed before you took the time to answer this, for which I thank you!

I guess I have a kind of bad habit from my time spent on a forum used for radio controlled hobbies. On there, it is not uncommon to get replies within minutes, because the forum is extremely active. So it has become a habit to post a question I have while still doing the internet research, hoping someone can save me some time in looking. On here, the replies seem to come about once a day. So I'll try to save posting questions until after I have exhausted other possible answer sources for the night. I really do appreciate all the help you good folks provide here! :)