[FSXA] Agusta Westland EH101 Hoist!!

rileybaxter · #1 16 Jun 2009, 23:09

Hey guys I am trying to get the EH101's hoist cable to pick-up different objects in free-flight / Multiplayer, and I just tried it with some friends and we could'nt get it to work

. So what should I do (If this is even possible!!!!)

Simon853 · #2 17 Jun 2009, 03:41

It does work. There's some scenery downloadable from HoverControl.com that has liftable objects in freeflight I believe, though I've not tried it myself. Folks there should be able to help you out, for sure.

Si

BASys · #3 17 Jun 2009, 05:26

Hi Folks

Riley -
See link below for a set of test flights and object placements,
that I'd knocked up during FSXA beta.

Places 43 liftable default objects at EGNL Walney, UK.
Works with default and addon meshes/sceneries.

Info & instructions included.
Download - FSXA_Test_Slingloads_In_The_Sandbox.zip

There's another one available at Hovercontrol.
Search for Scar Creek Load Lifting Flight.
ISTR it requires the Scar Creek scenery/mesh.

Just in case your hoist and sling aren't working in the FSXA tutorials -
Please see - FSDeveloper - Wiki - Key Mapping (FSXA)

HTH
ATB
Paul

rileybaxter · #4 17 Jun 2009, 10:04

Thanks guys, I'll try this and tell some of my friends at iflyonline where they do some search and resue missions (that they made themselves)

Againg thanks guys

rileybaxter · #5 17 Jun 2009, 18:30

Okay so I got something installed but I cant get the object placement tool (I have read the SDK) to place AI objects (the ones that I can edit the sim.cfg file to allow them to be lifted) for some reason it wont save correctly but I can save regular scenery...

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<FSData version="9.0">

The above is all that it says in the .xml file when I try and save the AI objects

....

helicopterpilot · #6 13 Aug 2009, 21:41

It can definately be done. I fly the Merlin for a military VA and a friend has made it possible for us to pick up loads whilst on server. The other players cannot see the load however.

He is going to give me a tutorial on how to place the loads, so when he does I will give you a shout.

BASys · #7 14 Aug 2009, 06:42

Hi Folks

Riley -
Sorry I'd missed your post previously.

You can't save AI objects as scenery.

What you do is place simobjects as static simobjects, (SimContain.Container)..

Open the xml sample supplied in the FSXA_Test_Slingloads_In_The_Sandbox.zip

HTH
ATB
Paul

helicopterpilot · #8 14 Aug 2009, 11:14

Hello BASys, Did you design all the oilrigs West of Blackpool? Been enjoying those for a while and was wondering if they were available for FSX.

BASys · #9 14 Aug 2009, 13:23

Hi Folks

Helicopterpilot -
The ODG versions of the UKEZ Irish Sea platforms
were modeled by Steve Chase, (aka Vertigo),
who sadly last month, died from undiagnosed cancer.

There are several ODG updates & addons
currently pending completion & packaging.

HTH
ATB
Paul

helicopterpilot · #10 14 Aug 2009, 19:30

Sad news. Thanks for the reply.

jim1964 · #11 25 Sep 2009, 21:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon853

It does work. There's some scenery downloadable from HoverControl.com that has liftable objects in freeflight I believe, though I've not tried it myself. Folks there should be able to help you out, for sure.

Si

I have not used this scenery,but I was able to lift objects in a few missions,though I had to use a hover gauge to hold my hover with the EH101.
In relation to that, does anyone have an idea when using SDK object placer, how to get the "Liftable Objects " to work in the scenery I created?

jim1964 · #12 25 Sep 2009, 21:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by rileybaxter

Okay so I got something installed but I cant get the object placement tool (I have read the SDK) to place AI objects (the ones that I can edit the sim.cfg file to allow them to be lifted) for some reason it wont save correctly but I can save regular scenery...

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<FSData version="9.0">

The above is all that it says in the .xml file when I try and save the AI objects

....

I think The AI objects are for scenery used in a mission creation only.If you create a mission you will be able to lift them.

I don't have the patients to create a mission.

BASys · #13 26 Sep 2009, 02:44

Hi Folks

Jim -
Think again.

See the sample set of test flights and object placements
(zip link in my first post above).

ATB
Paul

jim1964 · #14 26 Sep 2009, 10:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by BASys

Hi Folks

Jim -
Think again.

See the sample set of test flights and object placements
(zip link in my first post above).

ATB
Paul

The Zip file is really great!There should be NO need for people to modify files to get them to work as advertised!The Average person has NO knowledge of modifying aircraft to get them to work!Microsoft would have had less people changing over to X plane of giving up on FSX if they would have made things more user friendly!Microsoft and the developers limit their products in this way and totally frustrate the novice into giving up! (Contrasting views are welcome)

jim1964 · #15 27 Sep 2009, 09:07

It seem that I can only get the SLING LOAD not the Hoist to work in missions onlyI have used the object placer and placed liftable object all around but yet "no Dice" It wont work. How does one get the SLING LOAD to work? I can get the hoist to lower and retract but Don't see any command for the sling load?

BASys · #16 29 Sep 2009, 17:57

Hi Folks

Jim -
Sorry for not responding earlier,
I've been away for the past 5 days.

What happens if you load the samples provided ?
(at the provided sample's EGNL location).

HTH
ATB
Paul

jim1964 · #17 30 Sep 2009, 09:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by BASys

Hi Folks

Jim -
Sorry for not responding earlier,
I've been away for the past 5 days.

What happens if you load the samples provided ?
(at the provided sample's EGNL location).

HTH
ATB
Paul

It works in that environment,but How do you Get the "Sling load" to work? The hoist works. But the sling load Won't work in non mission or prefabbed environments. Example,i created some scenery with lift able objects I go to lift the objects,using the key assignment prescribed in the help menu. The test flight that was downloaded was fine and it worked but,How do you get the sling load to show up UNDER the EH101?When i try to get it to work in a regular flight ,it won't work,I only get the Hoist to show up.

BASys · #18 30 Sep 2009, 09:44

Hi Folks

Jim -
The way MS implemented slings is not very realistic.

They're attached to the aircraft, rather than the payload,
and unfortunately limited to a presaved flight.
i.e.
You need to edit the .flt file.

See the last section in the included sample .flt files.

Code:

// -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
// Sling & Hoist bits

[ResourcePath]
Path=flights\other\

[ObjectFile]
File=_Test_Slingload_EGNL_Master

[Payload.0]
PayloadList=-1

[Sling.0.0]
Object=
CableLength=0
HoistSwitch=0

[Sling.1.0]
Object=
CableLength=40
HoistSwitch=0

[Sling.1.0] in this case is a 40' sling.

HTH
ATB
Paul

jim1964 · #19 30 Sep 2009, 12:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by BASys

Hi Folks

Jim -
The way MS implemented slings is not very realistic.

They're attached to the aircraft, rather than the payload,
and unfortunately limited to a presaved flight.
i.e.
You need to edit the .flt file.

See the last section in the included sample .flt files.

Code:

// -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
// Sling & Hoist bits

[ResourcePath]
Path=flights\other\

[ObjectFile]
File=_Test_Slingload_EGNL_Master

[Payload.0]
PayloadList=-1

[Sling.0.0]
Object=
CableLength=0
HoistSwitch=0

[Sling.1.0]
Object=
CableLength=40
HoistSwitch=0

[Sling.1.0] in this case is a 40' sling.

HTH
ATB
Paul

I did Exactly what was mentioned in the edit and it DID show the sling load cable in the saved flight ,but it won't lift the "lift able objects",I place there. I raised and lowered the EH101 even used a hover gauge and still no lift?

Below is the flt file I edited)

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Guid={BCA3FDD1-FB83-4BBA-8407-4922A7F0D00C}
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Guid={BCA3FDD1-FB83-4BBA-8407-4922A7F0D00D}
Zoom=1
Translation=0, 0, 0
ChaseDirection=-135
ChaseDistance=56
ChaseAltitude=0.80000001192092896

[Camera.1.11]
Guid={6B79DD49-9B4A-439D-BF40-ACBF157B0BA0}
Zoom=10
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Rotation=0, 0, 0

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Guid={A2849229-938A-448F-8AC6-01EF2291C171}
Zoom=80.300003051757813
Translation=0, 0, 0
Rotation=0, 0, 0

[Camera.1.13]
Guid={94695C59-97C7-4F1B-ADAE-908CDFD10A27}
Zoom=1
Translation=0, 0, 0
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ChaseDistance=56
ChaseAltitude=5.8654861450195313

[Camera.1.14]
Guid={60BC0819-BD04-4AF6-8954-8FC8AA3545FF}
Zoom=8
Translation=0, 0, 0
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[Camera.1.15]
Guid={AA8C80C0-9EE2-4284-A1C2-B20CD3F5F3D9}
Zoom=8
Translation=0, 0, 0
Rotation=0, 0, 0

[Camera.1.16]
Guid={607C4520-CA6F-4135-AE10-8BF28838068F}
Zoom=1
Translation=0, 0, 0
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[Camera.1.17]
Guid={96873AAD-621B-4C45-8A58-DEF7B7FCB051}
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Translation=0, 0, 0
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[Camera.1.18]
Guid={5C1DF273-034B-4E7F-953A-9D5E26F1646C}
Zoom=0.75
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Guid={C690EAFD-223A-42D0-99E0-681ADF93BB59}
Zoom=0.5
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Guid={1A3100BE-955D-4B88-8BBB-210225631DC6}
Zoom=0.80000001192092896
Translation=0, 0, 0
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Guid={1A3190BE-955D-4B88-8BBB-210225631DC6}
Zoom=0.80000001192092896
Translation=0, 0, 0
Rotation=0, 0, 0

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Guid={2477394D-DD11-4424-84D0-583B8A9C61E6}
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Guid={352A2AC6-8673-4091-8052-F2A873A09D8E}
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Guid={8C2E1D03-4D0A-420C-8EC1-6D2164429DFE}
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Translation=0, 0, 0
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Guid={75A8357E-AB58-4294-9416-90C73FAFDD90}
Zoom=1
Translation=0, 0, 0
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ChaseAltitude=0.80000001192092896

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NavAid=VOR 1
Type=Rectangles
Density=Thin
Range=Short
Altitude=0
Flags=0

[ATC_AgentManager]
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[ATC_Aircraft.0]
ActiveFlightPlan=False
RequestedFlightPlan=False
AcState=ACSTATE_REQUEST_TAXI_CLEARANCE_OUT_VFR_ATI S
NumberofWaypoints=0
ClearanceFlags=80
CtCur=CLEARANCE_NONE
WaypointNext=0
AltCleared=-1
HdgAssigned=-1
SquawkAssigned=7279104
LandingSequence=LANDING_NONE
DepartureRequest=DEPARTURE_VFR_REQUEST_NONE
ParkingRequest=PARKING_NAME_NONE
ParkingTypeRequest=PARKING_TYPE_NONE
PatternLeg=PATTERN_LEG_NONE
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RunwayIndex=-1
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AirspaceTransition=AIRSPACE_TRANSITION_NONE
BVAirspaceTransition=BV_TYPE_NONE
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TakeoffSequence=TAKEOFF_SEQUENCE_NONE
LandingSequenceNumber=-1
TaxiRouteCurrent=-1
CruisingAltitude=-1
RequestedCruisingAltitude=-1
ExpectedAltitude=-1
AircraftSignature=1,0

[ATC_AircraftManager]
NumberofAircraft=1

[ATC_MessageSystem]
FrequencyNodes=0

[DateTimeSeason]
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Year=2009
Day=273
Hours=11
Minutes=1
Seconds=5

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ScreenUniCoords=0, 0, 0, 0
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Visible=False
Undocked=False
HiddenOn=False
ID=225
ViewsOn=0

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ScreenUniCoords=2458, 3687, 3276, 2457
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ScreenUniCoords=0, 0, 0, 0
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ScreenUniCoords=0, 0, 0, 0
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ScreenUniCoords=0, 0, 0, 0
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ScreenUniCoords=0, 0, 0, 0
UndocCoords=0, 0, 0, 0
Visible=False
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ViewsOn=0

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ScreenUniCoords=0, 0, 0, 0
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ScreenUniCoords=0, 0, 0, 0
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ViewsOn=0

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ScreenUniCoords=0, 0, 0, 0
UndocCoords=0, 0, 0, 0
Visible=False
Undocked=False
HiddenOn=False
ID=22007
ViewsOn=0

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ScreenUniCoords=0, 0, 0, 0
UndocCoords=0, 0, 0, 0
Visible=False
Undocked=False
HiddenOn=False
ID=22008
ViewsOn=0

[User Tip Window]
Undocked=False
ScreenUniCoords=500, 400, 7192, 650
UndocCoords=0, 0, 0, 0

[Sim.0]
Sim=AgustaWestland EH101 1

[SimVars.0]
Latitude=N30° 13' 14.25"
Longitude=W81° 52' 55.08"
Altitude=+000087.82
Pitch=-1.3254153906356052
Bank=-0.14964835043181768
Heading=-25.464919729183187
PVelBodyAxis=0
BVelBodyAxis=0
HVelBodyAxis=0
XVelBodyAxis=0
YVelBodyAxis=0
ZVelBodyAxis=0
SimOnGround=True
OnPlatformHeight=-9999999999

[Avionics.0]
Comm1Active=128.300
Comm1Standby=128.250
Comm2Active=127.800
Comm2Standby=127.900
Nav1Active=113.70
Nav1Standby=117.20
OBS1=340
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Nav2Standby=116.80
OBS2=315
Transponder=1200
ADFActive=284
ADF2Active=240
DMESelected=1
ComTransmit=1
ComReceiveBoth=False
AudioNav1Listen=False
AudioNav2Listen=False
AudioMarkerListen=False
AudioDmeListen=False
AudioAdfListen=False
AudioAdf2Listen=False
AvionicsSwitch=True

[Slew.0]
Active=False

[Freeze.0]
Location=False
Altitude=False
Attitude=False

[Engine Parameters.1.0]
ThrottleLeverPct=0
PropellerLeverPct=1
MixtureLeverPct=1
Pct Engine RPM=1.0319658602694577
MaxReachedEngineRPM=21653.008802246688
LeftMagneto=True
RightMagneto=True
GeneratorSwitch=True
CowlFlapPct=0
FuelPumpSwitch=False
CarbHeat/DeiceSwitch=False
Afterburner=0

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ThrottleLeverPct=0
PropellerLeverPct=1
MixtureLeverPct=1
Pct Engine RPM=1.0319658602694577
MaxReachedEngineRPM=21653.008802246688
LeftMagneto=False
RightMagneto=False
GeneratorSwitch=True
CowlFlapPct=0
FuelPumpSwitch=False
CarbHeat/DeiceSwitch=False
Afterburner=0

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ThrottleLeverPct=0
PropellerLeverPct=1
MixtureLeverPct=1
Pct Engine RPM=1.0319658602694577
MaxReachedEngineRPM=21653.008802246688
LeftMagneto=False
RightMagneto=False
GeneratorSwitch=True
CowlFlapPct=0
FuelPumpSwitch=False
CarbHeat/DeiceSwitch=False
Afterburner=0

[Fuel.0]
TankSelector=All
TankSelector1=All
Center=98.961311340332031
LeftMain=100
RightMain=100
LeftAux=100
RightAux=100
LeftTip=100
RightTip=100
Center 2=100
Center 3=98.536476135253906
External 1=100
External 2=100

[Systems.0]
BatterySwitch=True
StructuralDeiceSwitch=False
PropDeiceSwitch=False
Autobrakes=0
StandbyVacuum=False
PropSync=False
AutoFeatherSwitch=False
FlightDirector=False
PanelLights=False
LaunchBarSwitch=False
LaunchBarState=0
TailhookHandle=False
TailhookState=0
FoldingWingsHandle=False
FoldingWingsState=0, 0

[Gauges.0]
KollsmanSetting=29.916912078857422

[Switches.0]
PitotHeat=False
BeaconLights=True
LandingLights=False
LogoLights=False
NavLights=False
PanelLights=False
RecognitionLights=False
StrobeLights=False
TaxiLights=False
WingLights=False
CabinLights=False

[AutoPilot.0]
MasterSwitch=False
WingLeveler=False
Nav1Lock=False
HeadingLock=False
HeadingValue=0
AltitudeLock=False
AltitudeValue=0
AttitudeHold=False
AirspeedHold=False
AirspeedValue=0
MachHold=False
MachValue=0
VerticalSpeedHold=False
VerticalSpeedValue=0
RPMHold=False
RPMValue=0
GlideslopeHold=False
ApproachHold=False
BackCourseHold=False
YawDamper=False
ToGa=False
AutoThrottleArm=False
GPSdrivesNAV1=False
IsUsedForLesson=False

[Payload.0]
PayloadList=-1

[Sling.0.0]
Object=
CableLength=
HoistSwitch=0

[Sling.1.0]
Object=
CableLength=40
HoistSwitch=0

[Controls.0]
SpoilersHandle=000.00
FlapsHandle=000.00
LeftFlap=000.00
RightFlap=000.00
GearsHandle=000.01
Gear1=100.00
Gear2=100.00
Gear3=100.00
YokeY=050.00
YokeX=050.00
Rudder=050.00
LeftBrake=000.00
RightBrake=000.00
ParkingBrake=000.00
ElevatorTrim=053.29

[SimScheduler]
SimSpeed=001.00
SimTime=654.16574394736358

[Weather]
WeatherType=0
ThemeName=weather\themes\fair.WTB
ThemeTime=197

[Flying Tip Window]
Undocked=False
ScreenUniCoords=500, 400, 7192, 650
UndocCoords=0, 0, 0, 0

[ResourcePath]
Path=flights\other\

BASys · #20 30 Sep 2009, 12:48

Hi Folks

Jim -
How have you placed your objects ?

There is no reference in your posted .flt
to an ObjectFile, (which should contain your placements).

HTH
ATB
Paul

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