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FSXA How is a scenery directory related to performance? (if it is)

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Hi, I have a 1Tb hard disk, divided in 3 partitions(C, D, E). My Fsx is installed on disk E, my sceneries are on disk D, this can affect the performance, time to load or something? Do i need to put the folders in the "Addon Scenery" folder?

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I think you can put your scenery folders anywhere. The real problem seems to be keeping things off of your C: drive. That seems to be the pro 'route' for people is getting things off of the 'Windows' partition (C: drive). RAID hard drives were designed to use this tech for reading information from two drives so that you were reading 'two times' the amount of hard drive data at once. But then came SSD's, and read time was raised up to like 500/500 read/write. So you might as well put all your sim folder components on a single SSD higher performance drive that is away from Windows C: drive. You 'can' experiment with using a secondary drive and see how it works. With scenery, its easy enough to route in massive scenery folders into your sim from another drive, but they need to be 'one single package' per location. So if you have like the state of Utah and you want it in your sim drive, and its massive, you can put it on another drive, then open up your sim and 'add' the scenery into your sim manually and show it where your scenery pack is and 'done', it should then show up. I was doing this with giant 'state' packs of scenery. Worked well.
 

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On a single hard drive, take magnetic head motion into account to retrieve your data. When installed on multiple partitions, any program might invoke more magnetic head movements than necessarsy, invoking useleass delay in retrieving dats.

The best storage for FSX is a SSD as this eliminates any delay caused by mechanical parts.
 
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I think you can put your scenery folders anywhere. The real problem seems to be keeping things off of your C: drive. That seems to be the pro 'route' for people is getting things off of the 'Windows' partition (C: drive). RAID hard drives were designed to use this tech for reading information from two drives so that you were reading 'two times' the amount of hard drive data at once. But then came SSD's, and read time was raised up to like 500/500 read/write. So you might as well put all your sim folder components on a single SSD higher performance drive that is away from Windows C: drive. You 'can' experiment with using a secondary drive and see how it works. With scenery, its easy enough to route in massive scenery folders into your sim from another drive, but they need to be 'one single package' per location. So if you have like the state of Utah and you want it in your sim drive, and its massive, you can put it on another drive, then open up your sim and 'add' the scenery into your sim manually and show it where your scenery pack is and 'done', it should then show up. I was doing this with giant 'state' packs of scenery. Worked well.

Thanks for the reply. I want to use the same way you did. But i was in doubt if it will causes any problem. Sure a SSD would be great, i need to get one.

On a single hard drive, take magnetic head motion into account to retrieve your data. When installed on multiple partitions, any program might invoke more magnetic head movements than necessarsy, invoking useleass delay in retrieving dats.

The best storage for FSX is a SSD as this eliminates any delay caused by mechanical parts.

I was imagining this. But after the scenery is loaded and the Fsx is open, can the different partitions still be a problem?

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Well, the name of your company implies that you are already familiar with Solid State Drives. The configuration you have installed Felipe, is close to optimal for good performance. Scenery folders are best stored and allocated from the Addon Scenery folder for organizational purposes. Mention was made of "C" drive; that suggestion rises from the heightened security state of Windows 10, which prevents modification of installed programs in the Program Files directories and since FSX is a collection of routines and executables, it often hangs, or worse, when attempted to be run from Program Files and C:\Program Files (x86), if installed into W10.

On a single hard drive, take magnetic head motion into account to retrieve your data.
Ya, if you are calculating orbital dynamics in real time and orienting a return transmission, read/write head delay can be a real issue. One has a bit more leeway when loading simulator sceneries.

For those needing to catch up, hard drives are built like record players, the record is the data is on platter and the needle is the read/write head. The clicking whirring noise when you start a computer is the read/write heads gathering all the necessary data to launch the OS. If you drop a hard drive, it can be damaged in the same way as if you dropped a record player.

When installed on multiple partitions, any program might invoke more magnetic head movements than necessarsy, invoking useleass delay in retrieving dats.

The best storage for FSX is a SSD as this eliminates any delay caused by mechanical parts.

This is a very open statement that seems to be cautionary without providing anything quantitative. Anything could do almost anything, given the right conditions. I am imagining an array, where each mechanical hard drive stores one bit of data and I am challenging you to a race, bring as many SSD's as you'd like.
Further, a partition is only that. A 3 platter hard drive with 6 r/w heads can be formatted with 1 or 20 partitions, this does not change the ratio of storage space to availible r/w heads. Additionally, if you take a typical FSX installation and you break it up into two hard drives, now you have TWICE the r/w head transcription speed, thus halving any potential r/w delay.

A more accurate statement might be: "When installed on multiple partitions, any program might fragment to the point that r/w delay is significant." the solution is NOT to to eliminate space into which fragmentation can spread, the solution for any configuration would be to limit fragmentation.
 
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Well, the name of your company implies that you are already familiar with Solid State Drives. The configuration you have installed Felipe, is close to optimal for good performance. Scenery folders are best stored and allocated from the Addon Scenery folder for organizational purposes. Mention was made of "C" drive; that suggestion rises from the heightened security state of Windows 10, which prevents modification of installed programs in the Program Files directories and since FSX is a collection of routines and executables, it often hangs, or worse, when attempted to be run from Program Files and C:\Program Files (x86), if installed into W10.

Nice to know that!

Even if it was the case, i think it would be worth to me wait a little more for Fsx to open and have the sceneries on disk "D".

Regards
 
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