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MSFS Normal mapping - help!

rafikst

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Guys,
I didnt touched NORMAL textures for MSFS, last time I did for P3D and was fine. Now Im in the truble. Maybe someone help me?
This is just the one texture modification for free DC-3 from MSFS. The model doesn't have all the lines in the fron section so I tweaked it a bit.... but my texture now is too metallic.

On the left its a my modification on the right is default.

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Original DDS texture is here
LINK: https://www.sendspace.com/file/zcnw48
Modified (my PNG)
LINK: https://www.sendspace.com/file/iyryfh

1/ How to convert this PNG file to MSFS standard? When I created DDS DX5 I see this metallic effect.
2/ Or maybe someone can convert it for right DDS format like this orignal one for me (pretty please!)? Maybe just a few clicks?

Thank you very much in advance for your help
 
Pyscen

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rafikst said:
1/ How to convert this PNG file to MSFS standard? When I created DDS DX5 I see this metallic effect.
2/ Or maybe someone can convert it for right DDS format like this orignal one for me (pretty please!)? Maybe just a few clicks?

Thank you very much in advance for your help
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MSFS textures should be in ".png" or ".jpg" format. Developers should not convert them manually to ".DDS". The compiler will do the work.

For aircraft, there is a procedure to follow on new liveries. Technically, the normal map in new liveries shouldn't need to be changed from the original.
 
IronMinion

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Pyscen said:
MSFS textures should be in ".png" or ".jpg" format. Developers should not convert them manually to ".DDS". The compiler will do the work.

For aircraft, there is a procedure to follow on new liveries. Technically, the normal map in new liveries shouldn't need to be changed from the original.
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I'm talking exactly for a new livery. I just have to do a little modification of the original (removing a symbol and adding another, which is on the mat floor of the plane). So I basically open the normal texture but even if I do not modify anything just saving as dds screw up everything...which procedure are you talking about? Thanks
 
rafikst

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I used this (paint.net but not English version):

btw. for saving DDS second option of BC5.
 

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I swear I tried all the available option and still I get some artifacts (like a white metal handle becoming pure metal)
 
Socorrista22198

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Edit norm.dds textures

Hi all, how can I resize a norm.dds texture? I've done it with paint.net and gimp (only scale image) but the result looks like shadows in the sim: I have some norm.dds textures at 4096px but I want resize to 1024px. Cheers
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Resize NORM.dds textures

Hi friends, What dds compression format and type should we use? I’m trying to reduze the size of some aircraft textures with paint.net or GIMP. Textures like 8k or 4k to 1k. The albedo and composite textures works well, in sim shows properly. The problem is with the normals textures. I reduze...
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EzRyder6869 says:
Texture File Formats
ALBD - .DDS- BC1 (Linear, DXT1)
ALBD (Blurred) - .DDS- BC3 (Linear, DXT5)
NORM - .DDS- BC5 (Linear, Signed)
COMP & Decals - .DDS- BC7 (Linear, DX 11+)

Cheers :)
 
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IronMinion said:
I swear I tried all the available option and still I get some artifacts (like a white metal handle becoming pure metal)
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Pure metal is not necessarily should be pure white within your COMP.. It really depends on the type of metal it is.

It might be best to know what metal it is and to look ar your COMP map.
 
IronMinion

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I don't touch the comp file. For trying, I just open the norm file with photoshop then export as a dds with nvidia plugin or intel's one, then in the game something strange appears, like metal or different reaction to light.
Are these options right?

Thanks
 

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This is just one of the artifacts I get...
besides these, the normal map works as regarding normals and my modification is right too
 

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Socorrista22198

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If it's a problem like metal or different reaction to light, it's a compression format problem.

That option you selected I don't see "linear signed", maybe that is the cause, because there are a lot of compression formats with BC5 that don't work.

I also tried the NVIDIA tool when I was trying to find a solution and didn't work for me. Until I found that with paint.net the process is much easier saving with those formats I wrote above.

Cheers
 
IronMinion

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Socorrista22198 said:
If it's a problem like metal or different reaction to light, it's a compression format problem.

That option you selected I don't see "linear signed", maybe that is the cause, because there are a lot of compression formats with BC5 that don't work.

I also tried the NVIDIA tool when I was trying to find a solution and didn't work for me. Until I found that with paint.net the process is much easier saving with those formats I wrote above.

Cheers
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Thanks!
I suspected the problem was the tool...I will try to use paint.net
 
IronMinion

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Socorrista22198 said:
If it's a problem like metal or different reaction to light, it's a compression format problem.

That option you selected I don't see "linear signed", maybe that is the cause, because there are a lot of compression formats with BC5 that don't work.

I also tried the NVIDIA tool when I was trying to find a solution and didn't work for me. Until I found that with paint.net the process is much easier saving with those formats I wrote above.

Cheers
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I can't thank you enough!
And paint.net developers too 😂
 

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