• Which the release of FS2020 we see an explosition of activity on the forun and of course we are very happy to see this. But having all questions about FS2020 in one forum becomes a bit messy. So therefore we would like to ask you all to use the following guidelines when posting your questions:

    • Tag FS2020 specific questions with the MSFS2020 tag.
    • Questions about making 3D assets can be posted in the 3D asset design forum. Either post them in the subforum of the modelling tool you use or in the general forum if they are general.
    • Questions about aircraft design can be posted in the Aircraft design forum
    • Questions about airport design can be posted in the FS2020 airport design forum. Once airport development tools have been updated for FS2020 you can post tool speciifc questions in the subforums of those tools as well of course.
    • Questions about terrain design can be posted in the FS2020 terrain design forum.
    • Questions about SimConnect can be posted in the SimConnect forum.

    Any other question that is not specific to an aspect of development or tool can be posted in the General chat forum.

    By following these guidelines we make sure that the forums remain easy to read for everybody and also that the right people can find your post to answer it.

How to encrypt a BGL file.

arno

Administrator
Staff member
FSDevConf team
Resource contributor
Messages
32,883
Country
netherlands
No, that is not possible. That would also prevent FS itself from understanding the file.
 
Messages
859
Country
australia
Even if it can be seen in TMF viewer no one would be able to feasibly generate other data from it, as although the display is in WGS84 it appears skewed and it'd be way easier for someone to generate their own dataset than try and make something out of what's seen in TMF viewer. If that's what you're worried about.
 
Messages
453
Country
russia
Are you sure? You mean there is no way to protect our file from being seen by other people?

mohsenfff, I think Arno is 100K% sure, everyone would be happy to encrypt their own data and protect the work we are doing.. More or less...
 

scruffyduck

Administrator
Staff member
FSDevConf team
Resource contributor
Messages
34,854
Country
unitedkingdom
I am also 100% sure. We could certainly encrypt a bgl file so that a decompiler could not read it. But then FS would not be able to read it either. So before using it in FS the user would have to decrypt it. So once it was in FS it would be readable by anyone with the right tools.

There are some possible tricks that can be used to 'fingerprint' a Bgl file so that someone else could not claim it as theirs but even that is not very secure.
 

arno

Administrator
Staff member
FSDevConf team
Resource contributor
Messages
32,883
Country
netherlands
And the photo scenery bgl files are quite secure. You can't get the original data out from them.
 

scruffyduck

Administrator
Staff member
FSDevConf team
Resource contributor
Messages
34,854
Country
unitedkingdom
We also cannot get the data out of terrain (cvx) files for FSX.
 

rhumbaflappy

Administrator
Staff member
Resource contributor
Messages
5,945
Country
us-wisconsin
A few years ago I did look at the vector files ("CVX"). I didn't pursue making a decompiler as it is relatively easy to make new vector scenery thanks to the ability to exclude the vectors right down to the mesh.

But I think a decompiler could be made for the vectors, and perhaps for the raster scenery as well ( created by resample ).

But for what purpose? It's fairly easy to make new scenery.

Encrypting to prevent piracy would be very difficult. It might be possible to have an installer translate the encrypted files to a temporary folder, and that temp folder used during the flight session. I don't know if such a folder can be password protected to avoid copying files during the session...

It would be a difficult undertaking. And if it were practical, I think ORBX or someone else would have done it already.

Using ORBX as an example, if your scenery is good enough, there will be enough honest buyers to make your scenery profitable.

Dick
 

scruffyduck

Administrator
Staff member
FSDevConf team
Resource contributor
Messages
34,854
Country
unitedkingdom
I agree Dick. There are all sorts of fixes and fudges that could be applied but in the end the Bgl files have to be decrypted into FS and at that point anyone can read what is in them if they have access to a current decompiler.

I suppose those of us who made decompilers are to blame for the problem. However without them it would be very much harder for folks to take stock airports and modify them. So it is a balance. The genie has been out of the box for a long time on decompilers (certainly a long time before I got involved).
 
Messages
859
Country
australia
The only reason I see for needing a CVX decompiler is to decompile airport boundaries in order to generate vector file flattens that can be used with higher resolution elevation data. Something I've actually needed for a long time and sure would have helped Justin at FSG as well.
 
Messages
592
Country
us-california
We could certainly encrypt a bgl file so that a decompiler could not read it. But then FS would not be able to read it either.
you would restrict users from accessing protected data via strict ACL allowing specific applications/process read only access,
MS are doing it for their fs2020 platform which locks all files via restricted user permission combined with password protected ssl cert as cipher ,
 
Top