MSFS ADE 2020 Alpha 18 Released

[Gelomare]

Yes, ADE has the correct paths to the configs, SDK and to the content root folder, which on my machine is a custom location: “E:\Content” and which contains Community and OneStore.

Alpha 14 was working with Navigraph present, but it has been a while since I last used it, and I uninstalled it before installing Alpha 18.

The. Navigraph installer does modify Content.xml so that its files are layered correctly in the overall scenery system, so perhaps that is what is causing the issue.

With Navigraph present, ADE will throw the error message about “Base file missing” when creating a new project using a stock airport. Merely running the Navigraph uninstaller will allow ADE to create new stock projects with no errors.

It’s not a major problem. I was curious though if you had received other reports of this problem.

Just a suggestion.
Set the properties of your MSFS folder to "not hidden" and not "Read Only" and run ADE as Administrator.

George

 

[scruffyduck]

Yes, ADE has the correct paths to the configs, SDK and to the content root folder, which on my machine is a custom location: “E:\Content” and which contains Community and OneStore.

Alpha 14 was working with Navigraph present, but it has been a while since I last used it, and I uninstalled it before installing Alpha 18.

The. Navigraph installer does modify Content.xml so that its files are layered correctly in the overall scenery system, so perhaps that is what is causing the issue.

With Navigraph present, ADE will throw the error message about “Base file missing” when creating a new project using a stock airport. Merely running the Navigraph uninstaller will allow ADE to create new stock projects with no errors.

It’s not a major problem. I was curious though if you had received other reports of this problem.

No this is the first. As a matter of interest how does one get Navigraph for MSFS?

 

[JRBarrett]

Just a suggestion.
Set the properties of your MSFS folder to "not hidden" and not "Read Only" and run ADE as Administrator.

George

The MSFS folder is fully accessible and not read only, and I always run ADE as admin.

The more I think about it, the more certain I am that this has to do with how Navigraph is setting its priority in content.xml. It has gone through a few iterations of how it sets its priority over the default scenery for navaids and airports. There was a point where there would be doubled runways or other anomalies between default airport data and Navigraph that was changed by modifying the priority.

It’s not a big problem. It is easy enough to temporarily uninstall Navigraph if I want to work on a default airport in ADE.

 

[JRBarrett]

No this is the first. As a matter of interest how does one get Navigraph for MSFS?

If you are a Navigraph subscriber and have access to their forums, you can download the installer for the beta nav data for MSFS from the dedicated MSFS forum. Their other FMS AIRAC products for FSX/P3D/XP are all managed by a dedicated database manager program, but the MSFS core nav data has it’s own stand-alone installer/uninstaller. It copies all of its revised files to the community folder.

 

[scruffyduck]

If you are a Navigraph subscriber and have access to their forums, you can download the installer for the beta nav data for MSFS from the dedicated MSFS forum. Their other FMS AIRAC products for FSX/P3D/XP are all managed by a dedicated database manager program, but the MSFS core nav data has it’s own stand-alone installer/uninstaller. It copies all of its revised files to the community folder.

Thanks - I don't have a sub for them but I might do so especially if their packages etc can 'interfere' with the operation of ADE.

 

[GuidoH]

Hi Scruffyduck, I have tried to load project from my bgl file which contains a simple helipad with a simple airport, runway, apron and some scenery elements but getting an error "surface" element...
I have send the error report from ADE recently. I'm using version 18. Here are my files.

 

[SMWilliams]

Is there a way to access the gen_hangar objects with ADE 18. I don't see any of them listed in the Library Object Manager. I understand that this is an Alpha release and many things are not available yet.

 

[GuidoH]

Is there a way to access the gen_hangar objects with ADE 18. I don't see any of them listed in the Library Object Manager. I understand that this is an Alpha release and many things are not available yet.

To extend the object list, go to library manager and use add file or add folder to add objects from the bgl files you add through the functions.

 

[scruffyduck]

It depends where these come from. ADE 2020 does not support earlier version (mdl) objects since they are depreciated in the sim.

 

[scruffyduck]

Hi Scruffyduck, I have tried to load project from my bgl file which contains a simple helipad with a simple airport, runway, apron and some scenery elements but getting an error "surface" element...
I have send the error report from ADE recently. I'm using version 18. Here are my files.

I don't know the source of this but the runway surface is a zero guid. I can load the bgl file with the error you get. I created a new project with the bgl file and saved it - that seemed to repair the issue

 

[GuidoH]

I don't know the source of this but the runway surface is a zero guid. I can load the bgl file with the error you get. I created a new project with the bgl file and saved it - that seemed to repair the issue

Thx, I tried to create from bgl but still got the error. I'll try again...

 

[scruffyduck]

you will. create the new project, ignore the error and save the project. when you open it again it should have cleared the problem

 

[GuidoH]

Worked fine, and the default size of a library object which is surrounded by a square and in the object edit window there is a size of 20x20 meters grayed out. Any chance to change that or is is defined in the object library?

 

[SMWilliams]

To extend the object list, go to library manager and use add file or add folder to add objects from the bgl files you add through the functions.

I have added other bgl files to the library manager so I am aware of that. The problem is that I don't have a clue where to find the Asobo bgl file that contains the gen_hanger objects. I know that they exist in some file, just don't know which one.

 

[rhumbaflappy]

I have added other bgl files to the library manager so I am aware of that. The problem is that I don't have a clue where to find the Asobo bgl file that contains the gen_hanger objects. I know that they exist in some file, just don't know which one.

D:\MSFS\Official\Steam\asobo-modellib-airport-generic\scenery\airport_generic

(for the Steam edition)

When adding to the LOM be sure to Save after they are found.

 

[SMWilliams]

D:\MSFS\Official\Steam\asobo-modellib-airport-generic\scenery\airport_generic

(for the Steam edition)

When adding to the LOM be sure to Save after they are found.

OK I got that loaded and it is exactly what I wanted. One problem, each item gave me an error generating the footprint so all are represented by a square. Makes it a bit hard to position.

 

[art209]

OK I got that loaded and it is exactly what I wanted. One problem, each item gave me an error generating the footprint so all are represented by a square. Makes it a bit hard to position.

That's funny. I imported the file also, and footprints look good.

 

[scruffyduck]

That's funny. I imported the file also, and footprints look good.

Yep - they worked here fine as well. What error message? can you take a screenshot? Also please be sure that Draw Detailed Footprints is checked in Program Options

 

[SMWilliams]

Yep - they worked here fine as well. What error message? can you take a screenshot? Also please be sure that Draw Detailed Footprints is checked in Program Options

View attachment 71955

Draw Detailed Footprints is checked. Every object gives me this error. Also, this is a Microsoft install and not Steam.

 

[scruffyduck]

Hmmm - well I can't answer that other than it is an error coming from Arno's code. I assume you created a new installation for Alpha 18 and didn't update an existing one?

I am getting an update to Arno's files for the next alpha. Maybe someone else will report this also and help us to replicate the issue