FS2004 Autogen Hack - What's the latest?

[BrBlazer]

Hello,

I've read the posts here:

http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11029&highlight=autogen+hack

and here:

http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20152&highlight=autogen+ground

Regarding using autogen together with a gmax fs2002 polyhack method. What is the correct way to go as I didn't have much sucess with it?

Kindly,

Blazer

 

[arno]

Hi,

The trick of having an empty reference point (SCALE) command at the end seems to work best. Although it also does not seem to have 100% guarantee rate.

 

[BrBlazer]

Hello,

I had more success witht he INSTANCE_CALL command, that worked perfect.

Now my FS2002 gmax poly export no longer eliminates the autogen, but...

...and there's always a but...

...now my FS2004 gamepack MDL placed with XML coding also eliminates some autogen, is there a way to remove its "bounding box" too? The object is a compilation of buildings something like 200m x 600m so it seems autogen within 600x600m is missing.

Any tips for this kind of autogen hack?

Kindly,

Blazer

 

[arno]

Hi,

I did not see you were asking about FS2004 , in FSX the INSTANCE_CALL tweak does not seem to work anymore.

Removing the bounding box from the MDL will most likely give you dissappearing objects, so I would not advice that. The best is to make each object their own MDL object, so that the autogen exclusion is minimized.

 

[BrBlazer]

Hi Arno,

Actually I use a bit of both: FS9 for the heavies and FSX for the low and slow.

This project will probably be on both.

Ok, so INSTANCE_CALL will not work on FSX, but will the other trick work there, the one with SCALE_AGL or something to that effect?

As for the MDL one you are right. I'll split the export into "squares" so I get the bounding box I need and nothing more.

Kindly,

Blazer

 

[arno]

Hi,

Ok, so INSTANCE_CALL will not work on FSX, but will the other trick work there, the one with SCALE_AGL or something to that effect?

Yes, the SCALE tweak seems to work in most cases in FSX.

 

[Roland81]

I have just found out, don't know if others have, but if you export your ground polys with FS2002 sdk with a heading of 000 it won't eliminate autogen.

But its great, works for both FS2004 and FSX.

 

[hcornea]

Roland, ar you sure it's not simply that the bounding box lines up with your N-S or E-W runway and hence minimises agn loss.

I say this having exported GPs with heading zero before, but having had agn suppression.


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[Roland81]

Roland, ar you sure it's not simply that the bounding box lines up with your N-S or E-W runway and hence minimises agn loss.

I say this having exported GPs with heading zero before, but having had agn suppression.


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Well from early tests that's the outcome. I noticed because I wanted to try the INSTANCE CALL tweak and I found that the polygons exported with 000 do not contain the area on which to place the INSTANCE CALL tweak, whils the others which have something else than 000 do contain the section to put the instance call tweak.
perhaps Arno could clariy why wouldn't polys exported with 000 have the INSTANCE CALL section and the others do?

and by AGN I mean custom made AGN not default.

 

[jtanabodee]

Hello,



now my FS2004 gamepack MDL placed with XML coding also eliminates some autogen, is there a way to remove its "bounding box" too? The object is a compilation of buildings something like 200m x 600m so it seems autogen within 600x600m is missing.

Any tips for this kind of autogen hack?


Blazer

I'm not sure I understand you right that your mdl's in FS2004 are suppressing autogen. If that's the case, here is the solution.
It is simple to solve that autogen suppression problem.
First you need to know the height of the terrain in that area by using TDcalc2004.
Second, you put that height to the XML alt="xxxM" and change the altitudeIsAgl="FALSE". Your model will not suppress autogen any more. But if you use photoscenery, make sure that you don't put the tree under that building or model since it will not be eliminated at all.
Please take a look at my Chieng Mai City.

These two buildings are quite big and the trees surrounding them are no suppressed by this method.
You need to add flatten if that area is not flat. So you building will no float.

 

[Roland81]

I'm not sure I understand you right that your mdl's in FS2004 are suppressing autogen. If that's the case, here is the solution.
It is simple to solve that autogen suppression problem.
First you need to know the height of the terrain in that area by using TDcalc2004.
Second, you put that height to the XML alt="xxxM" and change the altitudeIsAgl="FALSE". Your model will not suppress autogen any more. But if you use photoscenery, make sure that you don't put the tree under that building or model since it will not be eliminated at all.
Please take a look at my Chieng Mai City.

These two buildings are quite big and the trees surrounding them are no suppressed by this method.
You need to add flatten if that area is not flat. So you building will no float.

Hi,
is not FS2004 sdk is the FS2002 sdk when you use the makemdl8 to export.

 

[arno]

Hi,

I am not sure if the INSTANCE_CALL really makes the difference. I always export with heading 0 from GMax, but still I have had autogen being removed. I am afraid it is still a more complex issue.

 

[jtanabodee]

I'm sorry that I thought he was speaking about FS2004 mdl suppressing autogen.

I had more success witht he INSTANCE_CALL command, that worked perfect.

Now my FS2002 gmax poly export no longer eliminates the autogen,

He said that he has successfully work with INSTANCE_CALL. But those answers are about adding INSTANCE_CALL to the code of FS2002 groundpoly.

...now my FS2004 gamepack MDL placed with XML coding also eliminates some autogen, is there a way to remove its "bounding box" too? The object is a compilation of buildings something like 200m x 600m so it seems autogen within 600x600m is missing.

Any tips for this kind of autogen hack?

He was saying about FS2004 mdl placed with XML code eliminate autogen a wide area since he had buildings complex around 200m x 600 m.

I though I understood what he would like to ask, still confusing!. If I'm wrong please tell me.

 

[Roland81]

Hi,

I am not sure if the INSTANCE_CALL really makes the difference. I always export with heading 0 from GMax, but still I have had autogen being removed. I am afraid it is still a more complex issue.

Thanks Arno, then it must be something complex occurring. thanks!