MSFS20 Blender2MSFS support thread

RomanDesign · 26 Oct 2020

SceneryFX said:
UV mapping isn't really an exporter issue, this is about the exporter. I'd probably create a separate thread for your issue.
There are so many different reasons for that to occur.

I actually thought it is the exporter that's not getting the correct UV mappins (as shown in Blender) to MSFS. Because UV mapping inside blender is nothing like I see in MSFS. So the breakdown is in the export stage I think... But I think I will create a separate topic just in case...

Chrismot · 26 Oct 2020

Do you have more than one UVMap for the same texture...? Or for the same material...?

RomanDesign · 27 Oct 2020

Chrismot said:
Do you have more than one UVMap for the same texture...? Or for the same material...?

I shouldn't, but how do I check that? Or reset that?

Chrismot · 27 Oct 2020

Here... :

RomanDesign · 27 Oct 2020

Chrismot said:
Here... :
View attachment 64325

Thank you Thank you Thank you!!! I had 2 UV maps and the first one from a previous bake was invisible in Blender but overriding in MSFS. I deleted it and the problem disappeared. Maybe you knwo what can cause another issue I'm going mad about for a while? I occasionally have strange metallic shimmer with stark contrast on different surfaces withj same material. Look at this one. All panels (faces) are exactly the same. Material is baked for the whole model, so one file. Blender2MSFS is used. All looks good, then sudennly it turns to this. Then after a few reloads it goes back normal again, and then back to this. This affects not just this model, but at least another one, and I have redone both from scratch, hoping that whatever geometry problem there was will disappear if I build a new model in a different way (building tools). But I still have this. Something glitches in MSFS but I only see it with my scenery. Also another person has reported that if this scenery is installed, and he uses neaby CYYZ as departure - he has CTD. And I tested it - and I have it too! My scenery is CNC3, which is in the same area but not close to CYYZ. Loading inside CNC3 airport is no problem, but 10km from it in CYYZ - crash. Crazy... Nobody could help me with the metallic shimmering issue, maybe you have an idea? BTW I have no metallic texture, and metallic is set to 0 in all materials, but when this happens it seems that all model becomes very shimmery and metallic sudenly...

Chrismot · 27 Oct 2020

Have you verified that all your hangar doors have an outward facing mesh...?

RomanDesign · 27 Oct 2020

Chrismot said:
Have you verified that all your hangar doors have an outward facing mesh...?

Yes, I did. And the funny thing is that it only looks this way sometime, on other loads it looks just find. And the same happens with 2 hangar models, older ones and newer ones too, despite the fact that they have been remade from scratch. With ot without baked textures. And I think when it happens it affects most or all models in the package. Then it disappears and it's fine. As if something is triggering this on occasion, but I have no idea what. I doubt that it's sucha unique problem for me, somebody must have seen this before....

wodec · 27 Oct 2020

Just for information for Blender2MSFS toolkit 0.40.0 no working blender2.91 and 2.92

Chrismot · 27 Oct 2020

RomanDesign said:
Yes, I did. And the funny thing is that it only looks this way sometime, on other loads it looks just find. And the same happens with 2 hangar models, older ones and newer ones too, despite the fact that they have been remade from scratch. With ot without baked textures. And I think when it happens it affects most or all models in the package. Then it disappears and it's fine. As if something is triggering this on occasion, but I have no idea what. I doubt that it's sucha unique problem for me, somebody must have seen this before....

It is also necessary to check that the loaded texture has a correct name... Sometimes, Blender loads a texture name with an extension "TextureName.png.001" for example! It is then necessary to remove the ".001"...!

wodec · 27 Oct 2020

RomanDesign said:
Thank you Thank you Thank you!!! I had 2 UV maps and the first one from a previous bake was invisible in Blender but overriding in MSFS. I deleted it and the problem disappeared. Maybe you knwo what can cause another issue I'm going mad about for a while? I occasionally have strange metallic shimmer with stark contrast on different surfaces withj same material. Look at this one. All panels (faces) are exactly the same. Material is baked for the whole model, so one file. Blender2MSFS is used. All looks good, then sudennly it turns to this. Then after a few reloads it goes back normal again, and then back to this. This affects not just this model, but at least another one, and I have redone both from scratch, hoping that whatever geometry problem there was will disappear if I build a new model in a different way (building tools). But I still have this. Something glitches in MSFS but I only see it with my scenery. Also another person has reported that if this scenery is installed, and he uses neaby CYYZ as departure - he has CTD. And I tested it - and I have it too! My scenery is CNC3, which is in the same area but not close to CYYZ. Loading inside CNC3 airport is no problem, but 10km from it in CYYZ - crash. Crazy... Nobody could help me with the metallic shimmering issue, maybe you have an idea? BTW I have no metallic texture, and metallic is set to 0 in all materials, but when this happens it seems that all model becomes very shimmery and metallic sudenly...
View attachment 64328

About the very shimmery and metallic you can create a comp-material for the rgb Material Slot in Blender the red channel get the AO-Map
The green Channel get the Roughness-map and the blue Channel get the Metallic-map.
You also can use in the Blender shader editor the roughness and merallic Slider.

RomanDesign · 27 Oct 2020

wodec said:
About the very shimmery and metallic you can create a comp-material for the rgb Material Slot in Blender the red channel get the AO-Map
The green Channel get the Roughness-map and the blue Channel get the Metallic-map.
You also can use in the Blender shader editor the roughness and merallic Slider.

Yes, and this happens even with all composite textures removed and metallic set to 0 on all objects and materials. Maybe it's not exactly the metallic that gets overblown, it just shimmers that way. I don't know... Something makes the different faces suddenly dark or light and shiny, as in my photo. And then it goes to normal on the next load or back again, without any changes in the objects...

WildLynxPilot · 27 Oct 2020

Just a thought. Could it be some z-fighting caused by some faces close behind another?

AlpineScenery · 27 Oct 2020

RomanDesign said:
Yes, and this happens even with all composite textures removed and metallic set to 0 on all objects and materials. Maybe it's not exactly the metallic that gets overblown, it just shimmers that way. I don't know... Something makes the different faces suddenly dark or light and shiny, as in my photo. And then it goes to normal on the next load or back again, without any changes in the objects...

When it happens to me, usually it is one of two causes. 1) Most common reason is as WildLynx said above, two faces too close together or z-fighting and/or backface culling setting. 2) Accidentally created a non-symmetrical shape producing a non-uniform shadow (either make the shape more symmetrical or turn off the shadows for that object)...

There are a few other less common reasons it happens.

HEL Fly4ever · 27 Oct 2020

Hey guys,

I was wondering in which way the amount of reflections I get from a metal surface can be reduced using Blender.Here is how it looks like when I added some metallic panels in my project:

Are there any adjustments in Blender to reduce this glow effect coming from the metal surfaces?

Many thanks!

BattleMetalChris · 27 Oct 2020

Can it export more than one set of UVs on the same object?

Or more specifically, can FS support more than one set of UVs?

I've created one set of UVs for the diffuse/albedo and another set for the AO. When I export to gtlf, the code contains these lines:

Code:

        "occlusionTexture" : {
                "index" : 0,
                "texCoord" : 1
            },
            "pbrMetallicRoughness" : {
                "baseColorTexture" : {
                    "index" : 1,
                    "texCoord" : 0
                },
                "metallicRoughnessTexture" : {
                    "index" : 0,
                    "texCoord" : 1
                }
            }
        }
    ],
    "meshes" : [
        {
            "name" : "Cube.007",
            "primitives" : [
                {
                    "attributes" : {
                        "POSITION" : 0,
                        "NORMAL" : 1,
                        "TANGENT" : 2,
                        "TEXCOORD_0" : 3,
                        "TEXCOORD_1" : 4
                    },
                    "indices" : 5,
                    "material" : 0
                }
            ]
        }
    ],

So they *export* ok. Is there any way to get the sim to recognise them?

There's also this setting:

Code:

 "msfs_show_ao_use_uv2" : 1

which looks very promising

chongwen20110901 · 28 Oct 2020

Is it possible to use an opacity map to control the opacity of my glass? I don't want to use the slider because it changes the opacity of the entire mesh. I want some parts to be left opaque.

AlpineScenery · 28 Oct 2020

Hopefully one of the more seasoned Blender guys in here will be able to answer some of you guys questions, but since I am just browsing, I'll give them a shot just from having read stuff in here.

@Hell-Fly4Ever
There are many ways to do this that I can think of, changing the texture itself, changing the smoothness or normal maps, or just removing those maps until you remake them to have a more appropriate level of reflections.

@weiwei
This has been answered in various places, do a search for glass in the forums. You can use an alpha map for the non-opaque parts and adjust the alpha settings, but the end-result might partially depend on how picky you are with the blending between opaque and transparent I guess. You could also create a separate face(s) where the opaque parts need to be, and then assign your regular UV map to the faces that need to be opaque, but this of course depends on what you are doing. There are some good threads posted by others showing various results with glass, I am not going to post them all here, but they are easy to find.

HEL Fly4ever · 28 Oct 2020

SceneryFX said:
Hopefully one of the more seasoned Blender guys in here will be able to answer some of you guys questions, but since I am just browsing, I'll give them a shot just from having read stuff in here.

@Hell-Fly4Ever
There are many ways to do this that I can think of, changing the texture itself, changing the smoothness or normal maps, or just removing those maps until you remake them to have a more appropriate level of reflections.

@BattleMetalChris
I think this was discussed earlier in the thread, I may be recalling incorrectly, but I kind of remember it technically being possible but not being supported by the exporter maybe.

@weiwei
This has been answered in various places, do a search for glass in the forums. You can use an alpha map for the non-opaque parts and adjust the alpha settings, but the end-result might partially depend on how picky you are with the blending between opaque and transparent I guess. You could also create a separate face(s) where the opaque parts need to be, and then assign your regular UV map to the faces that need to be opaque, but this of course depends on what you are doing. There are some good threads posted by others showing various results with glass, I am not going to post them all here, but they are easy to find.

Thank you for your answer!I'm very novice in Blender,in fact I started using it almost a week ago.The metal panels was found free on the net,I just convert them in Blender to use them in MSFS.However during the proccess I assign to them only the base texture eventhough there were available also other .png files,a "normal",a "metallic",a "smoothness" and I think a "roughness" one (?) because I didn't know how to use them and for what each one of them is used for.I suppose I'll have to experiment with these ones quite a lot although It will be hard to know how thinks will look like inside MSFS as it mostly seems that it has its own way on how Blender exported objects are shown.It will be more or less a trial and error proccess.

BattleMetalChris · 28 Oct 2020

SceneryFX said:
@BattleMetalChris
I think this was discussed earlier in the thread, I may be recalling incorrectly, but I kind of remember it technically being possible but not being supported by the exporter maybe.

@SceneryFX you mentioned in this thread, that you'd successfully exported multiple UV maps on the same object? Or did I not read your post correctly?

chongwen20110901 · 28 Oct 2020

SceneryFX said:
Hopefully one of the more seasoned Blender guys in here will be able to answer some of you guys questions, but since I am just browsing, I'll give them a shot just from having read stuff in here.

@Hell-Fly4Ever
There are many ways to do this that I can think of, changing the texture itself, changing the smoothness or normal maps, or just removing those maps until you remake them to have a more appropriate level of reflections.

@BattleMetalChris
I think this was discussed earlier in the thread, I may be recalling incorrectly, but I kind of remember it technically being possible but not being supported by the exporter maybe.

@weiwei
This has been answered in various places, do a search for glass in the forums. You can use an alpha map for the non-opaque parts and adjust the alpha settings, but the end-result might partially depend on how picky you are with the blending between opaque and transparent I guess. You could also create a separate face(s) where the opaque parts need to be, and then assign your regular UV map to the faces that need to be opaque, but this of course depends on what you are doing. There are some good threads posted by others showing various results with glass, I am not going to post them all here, but they are easy to find.

Thank you! I will do some research around the forum.

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