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MSFS How to disable a runway completely?

Jakob.D029

Jakob.D029

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Hi there,
I am currently working on improving my scenery for the airport of Chania (LGSA).
There is one thing that bothers me a lot: It is the runway 29L/11R. This runway is not in use anymore (Except for military emergencies that rarely happen).
But when I do an IFR flight to the airport, the default runway it selects is the disabled runway 29L/11R. Not the much larger 29R/11L runway that is used in the real world.
I have already set the No Primary landing / takeoff flags to enabled and even tried it with closing the ends of the runway with the Primary / Secondary end closed with an "X" option.
But unfortunately nothing works. I even removed the runway "Starts"
Is there a way to disable the runway completely?
The reason why I want to keep it is because of the aesthetics. The runway in the real world still has all of the markings and lights.
Thanks a lot!
 
Did you try the "No Primary landing /takeoff" also on the secondary end? I think 29L will still be available if it's not the case. .Just a though.
 
xavios said:
Did you try the "No Primary landing /takeoff" also on the secondary end? I think 29L will still be available if it's not the case. .Just a though.
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I did so. Even on the official SDK guide it says that this will disable that end of the runway. But it does not work...
 
I did a quick look at the default LGSA. The runway starts for 11/29 are over the wrong runway according to ADE. Maybe that is a problem?
 
I am using the "Developer Mode" and the Scenery Editor in the Sim. In there I reconstructed the entire airport. I have added the second runway (29L/11R) Because it is only used for military emergencies (That happen rarely) and thefefore is still marked and lighted as a normal runway.
I have even removed the runway starts for the runway but still it seems to be usable...
 
Without recreating the airport, just altering the runways and starts:
XML: 
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<FSData version="9.0">
    <Airport groupID="1" groupGenerated="FALSE" name="LGSA" ident="LGSA" lat="35.53138878196480" lon="24.15111109614370" alt="140.05499267578099" magvar="357.000000" trafficScalar="1.000000" airportTestRadius="10000.00000000000000" applyFlatten="FALSE" isOnTIN="FALSE" tinColorCorrection="TRUE">
        <Runway parentGroupID="1" groupIndex="1" lat="35.52954610437150" lon="24.15022552013400" alt="140.05500000000001" heading="111.77300262451172" length="3352.70800781250000" width="27.06399917602539" patternAltitude="304.79998779296875" surface="{1F94370E-E0C7-4953-B3A2-DE44313DE070}" transparent="FALSE" number="11" designator="R" primaryLanding="TRUE" primaryTakeoff="TRUE" primaryPattern="LEFT" secondaryLanding="TRUE" secondaryTakeoff="TRUE" secondaryPattern="LEFT" primaryMarkingBias="0.00000000000000" secondaryMarkingBias="0.00000000000000" groundMerging="TRUE" excludeVegetationAround="TRUE">
            <Coloration red="134" green="134" blue="134" alpha="255" override="TRUE"/>
            <Markings edges="TRUE" threshold="TRUE" alternateThreshold="FALSE" fixedDistance="TRUE" alternateFixedDistance="FALSE" touchdown="TRUE" alternateTouchdown="TRUE" dashes="TRUE" ident="TRUE" leadingZeroIdent="FALSE" precision="TRUE" alternatePrecision="FALSE" edgePavement="FALSE" singleEnd="FALSE" primaryClosed="FALSE" secondaryClosed="FALSE" primaryStol="FALSE" secondaryStol="FALSE" noThresholdEndArrows="FALSE"/>
            <Lights center="NONE" edge="HIGH"/>
        </Runway>
        <Runway parentGroupID="1" lat="35.53132273256780" lon="24.15116071701050" alt="140.05500000000001" heading="111.72399902343750" length="3348.36791992187500" width="40.94300079345703" patternAltitude="304.79998779296875" surface="{2E0DE83F-B79A-4435-905C-DCBBEAC55C59}" transparent="FALSE" number="11" designator="NONE" primaryLanding="TRUE" primaryTakeoff="TRUE" primaryPattern="LEFT" secondaryLanding="TRUE" secondaryTakeoff="TRUE" secondaryPattern="LEFT" primaryMarkingBias="0.00000000000000" secondaryMarkingBias="0.00000000000000" groundMerging="TRUE" excludeVegetationAround="TRUE">
            <RunwayDeformation alt="130.759003" ratio="0.000000"/>
            <RunwayDeformation alt="149.352005" ratio="1.000000"/>
            <Markings edges="TRUE" threshold="TRUE" alternateThreshold="FALSE" fixedDistance="TRUE" alternateFixedDistance="FALSE" touchdown="TRUE" alternateTouchdown="TRUE" dashes="TRUE" ident="TRUE" leadingZeroIdent="FALSE" precision="TRUE" alternatePrecision="FALSE" edgePavement="FALSE" singleEnd="FALSE" primaryClosed="FALSE" secondaryClosed="FALSE" primaryStol="FALSE" secondaryStol="FALSE" noThresholdEndArrows="FALSE"/>
            <Lights center="NONE" edge="HIGH"/>
            <ApproachLights end="PRIMARY" system="NONE" strobes="0" endLights="FALSE" touchdown="FALSE" snapToGround="FALSE" reil="TRUE" offset="30.480000" spacing="30.480000" slope="0.000000"/>
            <ApproachLights end="SECONDARY" system="NONE" strobes="0" endLights="FALSE" touchdown="FALSE" snapToGround="FALSE" reil="TRUE" offset="30.480000" spacing="30.480000" slope="0.000000"/>
            <RunwayStart end="PRIMARY" lat="35.53681044197759" lon="24.13424764240639" alt="140.03666924871504" heading="111.77300262451172"/>
            <RunwayStart end="SECONDARY" lat="35.52585517176295" lon="24.16797185998766" alt="140.03807652555406" heading="291.77301025390625"/>
        </Runway>
        <DeleteAirport deleteAllApproaches="FALSE" deleteAllApronLights="FALSE" deleteAllAprons="FALSE" deleteAllFrequencies="FALSE" deleteAllHelipads="FALSE" deleteAllRunways="TRUE" deleteAllStarts="TRUE" deleteAllTaxiways="FALSE" deleteAllVectorPlacement="FALSE" deleteAllBoundaryFences="FALSE" deleteAllJetways="FALSE" deleteAllControlTowers="FALSE" deleteAllDepartures="FALSE" deleteAllArrivals="FALSE" deleteAllPaintedElements="FALSE" deleteAllLightSupports="FALSE" deleteAllTaxiwaySigns="FALSE" deleteAllILSs="FALSE" deleteAllTerminalWaypoints="FALSE" deleteAllTerminalNDBs="FALSE"/>
    </Airport>
</FSData>

This seems to work when compiled and in Community. Rarely do we need to delete and recreate an entire airport.
 
I observe Chania's traffic since yesterday and I've never seen plane landing on the 11R/29L. The ATIS says that both runways are usable but ATC directs traffic on the good runway for landing and take-off. I don't know what it would be in DevMode but I think it would be the same.
I have also removed all 11R/29L runway links because it's now Taxiway Sierra. Of course everything is closed in ADE for the former 11R/29L

https://aisgr.hasp.gov.gr/aipgr_incl_amdt_0624_wef_11jul2024/cd/ais/indexaip.htm
(AD2/LGSA/LGSA-ADC
 
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