MSFS Is it possible to add scenery objects with ADE without creating an airport?

[scruffyduck]

Thanks. That is good to know.
BTW I did not change the Test Radius parameter of the airport properties. I just added an image from Google Earth of the area (for correct placement of scenery objects) with top left, bottom right co-ordinates and then added my scenery objects and at this point in case Jon is reading, the footprint of my scenery object is very 'tight' and exactly what I would expect it to be.
Firstly the scenery object is not complete and I have some way to go with it to include all the docks.
Here it is (note that this a huge scenery object which so far covers an area of 115 metres x 35 metres) -

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Please also note that the footprint is not exactly over the satellite imagery. That is because when viewed in MSFS it was not displayed in the correct position which begs the question are the co-orrdinates of scenery/landforms etc NOT exactly correct in MSFS or are the co-ordinates displayed by Google Earth not exact?

Lastly someone please advise the correct method to set up (alpha) 19 so that all my projects in 18 are in then 19 (I assumed that all I needed to do was to copy the entire F20 folder across).

Just copy all your project folders from Alpha 18 to Alpha 19. Since you can set the path to the projects fold yourself then you can have them outside the ADE folder structure and even have a single folder for project. I actually keep them outside the ADE folders but do have a separate root folder for each alpha. However since we don't support anything alpha version other than the current one I copy old projects into the new alpha root folder and archive the old root folder. So I have a folder for Alpha 19 projects and my folder for alpha 18 projects went into my backup archive.

I strongly recommend creating a root folder for projects outside the ADE folder structure

 

[jgarnold]

Thanks Jon and welcome back. I hope you got everything done you planned to do.
I just checked Options>Settings in my Alpha 19 setup and Save Projects to was C:\ADE 2020 Alpha 18\F20 instead of C:\ADE 2020 Alpha 19\F20. Is that location also used when loading a project? I can only think YES and that would be the reason why when I make modifications to my scenery objects I had to copy them to the modellib in 18.

 

[jgarnold]

FYI
Regarding adding a scenery object to an (user generated) airport which is a long distance away (in my case docks at Vancouver Harbor which is 35 miles from the airport I created) that ADE 19 (and probably other versions) displays an 'area of squares' around where the airport is (visible when you 'zoom out') and my scenery object is just 'inside' that area. I am wondering if that represents the 'boundary' where you can safely add scenery objects ALTHOUGH I would have thought that such an area would be a 'circle'. Note the image below with red arrow pointing to where my Vancouver docks scenery object is. Also the area of squares is only seen in ADE 19 (not in ADE18). Maybe Jon can explain the purpose of that area.

 

[scruffyduck]

I have absolutely no idea what it is. Can you right click on it and get any information or is there a tooltip for it

 

[jgarnold]

Here is another image not zoomed out so far where the 'squares' can be more easily seen. Right clicking in that area shows nothing more than it does anywhere else. I don't see those squares when using ADE18.

 

[scruffyduck]

Soffy but I don't see anything. Try changing the background color for the ADE display to see if they change with it or become more obvious

 

[JimBrown]

It's the grid.

Spacing can be set in the "Settings" menu. Visibility can be set in the "View" menu. Appears to have a fixed overall size. As far as I know, it has nothing to do with any airport "boundaries" (the red circle is the "Airport Test radius"). Items can be placed outside the grid, but I don't know what happens to them when the project is built.

...jim

 

[scruffyduck]

OK Jim is correct - this is the background grid which can be turned on or off

Sounds like you may have it turned off in A18 but on with A19. It's there for guidance. You can set the spacing in the Settings Menu

 

[jgarnold]

Thanks for clearing that up. Yes also I was aware of the red circe around the airport which I assumed was a boundary. I note that in ADE 18 the Set Grid Spacing is set to 500 as it also is on ADE 19 but I Grid is NOT set in (my) ADE 18 whereas it is in ADE 19. Maybe I set it ON in ADE 18 but didn't in ADE 19 and the default (when installed) is off.