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P3D V5.4 - Samm looking for SDK Environment kit

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After right clicking as admin of samm.exe, I tried locating a AI aircraft in P3DV5.4 to convert to a static ac.
After I located the aircraft I wanted to convert, a message stating environment kit could not be found

See the screen grab) - I do have the latest and greatest SDK for P3DV5,4 and:
1. I did a repair function
2. I did a uninstall and reinstall function.

To no avail did this Environment kit folder that SAMM was looking for could be found.
Google stated it had to be downloaded separately from P3D site
I did not find this and only the whole SDK package which I downloaded
and reinstalled. NO Environment kit folder to be seen.

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I can't win for loosing - i.e. I tried MCX and now SAMM to create one lousy static aircraft and if it were not
for the bad luck I'd have no luck at all.
 
To resolve this, I would start by doing a Google search with the query string that is seen in the search field when you click this link:

https://www.google.com/search?clien...=1&pi=site: www.fsdeveloper.com SAMM SDK Path

Normally after installation, the versions of P3D SDK that were released after P3Dv1.4x (which are 64-Bit (aka "x64") will by default be found in the C:\Program Files\ sub-folder chain instead of the C:\Program Files (x86) sub-folder chain.

Having personally worked with the author of SAMM (Don Grovestine - R.I.P.) in the past on one of his other software projects, and having read the documentation for SAMM as well as having scanned FSDEV SAMM forum threads, i can attest to the fact that Don was very thorough, and had updated his code for compatibility with at least earlier releases of P3Dv5 shortly before his untimely passing.

So, if SAMM cannot find the P3Dv5 SDK, there may be an issue with where- and how- your copy of P3Dv5 SDK is installed.

It 'may' be due to Windows Security, but more likely it is due to another issue.

I am on the road presently, but if you read this before I return to my FS computer to verify the default path of the file SAMM is looking for, you should, IMHO check the GUI and PDF manual, to see if SAMM has a setup configuration dialog that allows you to manually browse or otherwise type in the path to the SDK file it is seeking.

GaryGB
 
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GaryGB said:
To resolve this, I would start by doing a Google search with the query string that is seen in the search field when you click this link:

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-m&q=site: www.fsdeveloper.com SAMM SDK Path#sbfbu=1&pi=site: www.fsdeveloper.com SAMM SDK Path

Normally after installation, the versions of P3D SDK that were released after P3Dv1.4x (which are 64-Bit (aka "x64") will by default be found in the C:\Program Files\ sub-folder chain instead of the C:\Program Files (x86) sub-folder chain.

Having personally worked with the author of SAMM (Don Grovestine - R.I.P.) in the past on one of his other software projects, and having read the documentation for SAMM as well as having scanned FSDEV SAMM forum threads, i can attest to the fact that Don was very thorough, and had updated his code for compatibility with at least earlier releases of P3Dv5 prior to his passing.

So if SAMM cannot find the P3Dv5 SDK, there may be an issue with where- and how- your copy of P3Dv5 SDK is installed.

It 'may' be due to Windows Security, but more likely it is due to another issue.

I am on the road presently, but if you read this before I return to my FS computer to verify the default path of the file SAMM is looking for, you should, I MHO check the GUI and PDF manual, to see if SAMM has a setup configuration dialog that allows you to manually browse or otherwise type in the path to the SDK file it is seeking.

GaryGB
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First, I did a repair of SDK, then and uninstall of SDK and then install.....Its default install in on C drive, I opted for G: drive where rest of my P3DV5 resides, upon completion of install I searched for the missing
environment kit SAMM is looking for. It is not to be found. BTW, when I uninstalled SDK, I installed it on drive C: just to be nice and same results, no Environment kit folder. Google stated I could go to P3d
main site and download this kit Samm needs. Only file in the SDK department to download was the whole SDK program and not just an envoronment kit. So, here we are, dead in the water again......
CCR song....
stuck in lodi again......
 
The error message says that the required file is in the Modeling SDK/bin folder when dealing with P3D. Why are you looking for an Environment Kit folder?
 
tgibson said:
The error message says that the required file is in the Modeling SDK/bin folder when dealing with P3D. Why are you looking for an Environment Kit folder?
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Because, when I was trying to load an AI aircraft to convert to static, SAMM balked and said it could not find this Environment kit. Not my idea...... Evidently, it was or is a component of SDK.
 
The Environment Kit is a section by category that MS ACES originated in ESP before they licensed (sold?) the rights for use of that code set to Lockheed Martin for Prepar3D.

On nearly all web pages pertaining to LM P3D SDK, it is subdivided into sections, one of which is the "Environment Kit".

I have not checked recently to see if LM has once again taken web pages offline already for P3Dv5, as they seem to always be pushing people to only buy and use their latest version (currently P3Dv6), but normally they keep info online for at least (1) prior version in addition to their current numeric release.

After installation, latter versions of LM P3D SDK will have those sub-sections as a folder chain structure, including Environment Kit.

So, "A-Browsing-You- Go" to find the SDK utility you seek.

But, Don's code for SAMM 'should' have found it all by itself, so let's note that something is not working as it should, and make note to fix it later, if we can.

If you were successful in reinstalling P3Dv5 SDK, I suggest to find what you are looking for, that you install and use Windows File Search, or the latest version of a software utility front end for that Windows search and indexing engine, which is quite fast, and is called "Everything":

https://www.voidtools.com

Once installed, and it does its relatively brief initial indexing. enter as a search string the term modeldef.xml

Typically "EverythIng" can quickly find files / folders regardless of where they are on a computer or Local Area Network (aka "LAN"), and regardless of whether they are inside of Windows protected system or non-shared public folders.

GaryGB
 
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The Environment Kit is a section by category that MS ACES originated in ESP before they licensed (sold?) the rights for use of that code set to Lockheed Martin for Prepar3D.

On nearly all web pages pertaining to LM P3D SDK, it is subdivided into sections, one of which is the "Environment Kit".

I have not checked recently to see if LM has once again taken web pages offline already for P3Dv5, as they seem to always be pushing people to only buy and use their latest version (currently P3Dv6), but normally they keep info online for at least (1) prior version in addition to their current numeric release.

After installation, latter versions of LM P3D SDK will have those sub-sections as a folder chain structure, including Environment Kit.

So, "A Browsing You Go" to find the SDK utility you seek.

But, Don's code for SAMM 'should' have found it all by itself, so let's note that something is not working as it should, and make note to fix it later, if we can.

If you were successful in reinstalling P3Dv5 SDK, I suggest to find what you are looking for, that you install and use Windows File Search, or the latest version of a software utility front end or that WIndows search and indexing engine, which is quite fast, and is called "Everything":

https://www.voidtools.com

Once installed, and it does its relatively brief initial indexing. enter as a search string the term modeldef.xml

GaryGB
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Actually, I previously installed Everything a few moons ago, anyhow, a everything search reveled a copy of the modelef.xml noted in attached.
SAMM was unable to "sniff" this out so how do I tell samm where to fine it also, I never did fine a folder named environment kit.
I presume this is what SAMM was looking for.
 

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I could probably discern this and tell you after I return to my office early this afternoon (Chicago time), as I am still on the road.

UPDATED: P3D SDK versions after 1.4x do NOT utilize \Environment Kit sub-folder chain structure when installed; SAMM's docs do not mention this.

GaryGB
 
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I was able to successfully create a folder(s) replete with the xml file SAMM was looking for. Why SDK unpacked the xml file to location it did is beyond me.

At any rate I think I made a static aircraft, now I am trying to find where it is located.
 

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Everything Search string: *.MDL ...should show all such files with that extension; click column headers to sort with most recent dates at top.

GaryGB

 
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