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Working more on my 747, I have been using Roskam's very informative document on stability and control derivatives. When it comes to the pitching moments section in 1101, I've noticed some curious behavior.
Setting Cmq, pitch damping, Cma dot, dynamic stability, and Cm delta E, elevator control derivative, to the correct calculated values causes my 747 to be very 'bouncy', in that the elevator feels like it's giving the proper control authority, but the Cm graph and Cma dot cause the elevator to lose it's authority rather fast, and when I let it go, it will rapidly return to it's previous trimmed AOA. This quickly leads to some rather high oscillation, even with little control movement. I know an out of trim aircraft will not fly perfectly, but surely not like this?
This happens when I use a pitch damping value close to the real value, around -20 to -25 ish. If I set the pitch damping higher, to around -100 to -300, the oscillations feel much closer to reality, but the elevator lacks pitch authority.
While this behavior does seem somewhat correct in that the way it responds is right, but the response speed feels much too fast. I feel like the virtual passengers would be puking from even slight control inputs.
On a side note, I can't seem to properly figure out exactly how the slope of table 473 is supposed to work, and have borrowed the one from the Level-D 767, since it is another large jet transport and seems to fly properly.
And another side note, how do the horizontal stabilizer entries in section 1101 (Cm ih and CL h) actually work?
Thanks so much!
Chris
Setting Cmq, pitch damping, Cma dot, dynamic stability, and Cm delta E, elevator control derivative, to the correct calculated values causes my 747 to be very 'bouncy', in that the elevator feels like it's giving the proper control authority, but the Cm graph and Cma dot cause the elevator to lose it's authority rather fast, and when I let it go, it will rapidly return to it's previous trimmed AOA. This quickly leads to some rather high oscillation, even with little control movement. I know an out of trim aircraft will not fly perfectly, but surely not like this?
This happens when I use a pitch damping value close to the real value, around -20 to -25 ish. If I set the pitch damping higher, to around -100 to -300, the oscillations feel much closer to reality, but the elevator lacks pitch authority.
While this behavior does seem somewhat correct in that the way it responds is right, but the response speed feels much too fast. I feel like the virtual passengers would be puking from even slight control inputs.
On a side note, I can't seem to properly figure out exactly how the slope of table 473 is supposed to work, and have borrowed the one from the Level-D 767, since it is another large jet transport and seems to fly properly.
And another side note, how do the horizontal stabilizer entries in section 1101 (Cm ih and CL h) actually work?
Thanks so much!
Chris