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Portion of Terminal Building is Underground

FYI: Thus far I am not certain I am able to see your replacement G-Poly in any of the views launched by these *.FLT files.

Gary, I think the reason you're not seeing the ramp is because it's not installed on your sim. I have attached below my KCLT_Ramp folder. Place it in the Addon Scenery folder and add it to the scenery library. I think you should see it now, and it will be at the same altitude and location as it was on mine.


I shall also post screenshots of what these (2) phase run time renders show on my FSX installation of FSDT KCLT demo.

I think I know the 2 phases you're referring to. Mine does the same, except it only takes about 15 to 20 seconds to load, something like that.

Ken.
 

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Hi Ken:

I'll check back on this thread tomorrow to see if attachment of your replacement Ramp G-Poly is completed. ;)

There is no attachment showing thus far.

GaryGB
 
Hi Ken:

I'll check back on this thread tomorrow to see if attachment of your replacement Ramp G-Poly is completed. ;)

There is no attachment showing thus far.

GaryGB

Hi Gary,

It's posted now. I just forgot to attach it but it's there now.

Ken.
 
Hi Arno:

This is what I saw when I attempted to download Ken's attachment above:

https://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/attachments/kclt_new-ramp-zip.58779/

fsdeveloper_kmanning_attachment_download_blocked_by_malwarebytes-jpg.58784


GaryGB
 

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Hi Ken:

Since we have received no reply yet from Arno regarding the security alert above (which I have not ever seen before at FSDEV website for an attachment), please link to your intended downloads at a remote site such as DropBox, Google Drive, MS OneDrive, MediaFire etc.

PS: Please post the exact same ZIP file as attached above ( unchanged ! ) at the external download site and link to it here. :pushpin:

GaryGB
 
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Gary,

I'm not sure what kind of answer you expect, but if this same file is hosted elsewhere it would be the same potentially suspicious content wouldn't it?

I'm not familiar with MalwareBytes, but could it be this application gives false positives?
 
Hi Arno:

Assuming here are no other reports by others having seen this same alert for attachments at FSDEV recently, indeed the file Ken attached could have some attributes that the MalwareBytes BrowserGuard FireFox Extension flags as a false positive. :)

That is why I thought it would be a good test to see if another download site (with a presumably higher security budget) would detect a suspect payload in Ken's ZIP, and/or MalwareBytes BrowserGuard FireFox Extension again flags the file when it is downloaded from a link here to another file repository. :idea:


It is not an impossibility that an update in the definitions used by MalwareBytes BrowserGuard FireFox Extension may have been conveyed when MalwareBytes AdwCleaner and MalwareBytes Anti-Malware were updated for a scan I did yesterday in the early evening before attempting to download Ken's latter ZIP with *.BGL files that he attached later.

I suppose we'll know more soon, after Ken posts a link to that file on a (more secure ?) external download site. ;)

GaryGB
 
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Hi Ken:

Since we have received no reply yet from Arno regarding the security alert above (which I have not ever seen before at FSDEV website for an attachment), please link to your intended downloads at a remote site such as DropBox, Google Drive, MS OneDrive, MediaFire etc.

PS: Please post the exact same ZIP file as attached above ( unchanged ! ) at the external download site and link to it here. :pushpin:

GaryGB


Hi Gary,

That sure is strange. I clicked on the zip file I sent you and open the file to my desktop without any problems. I'll put it on MediaFire. I think that's the one I've used in the past. See you shortly.

Ken.
 
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Hi Ken:

Since we have received no reply yet from Arno regarding the security alert above (which I have not ever seen before at FSDEV website for an attachment), please link to your intended downloads at a remote site such as DropBox, Google Drive, MS OneDrive, MediaFire etc.

PS: Please post the exact same ZIP file as attached above ( unchanged ! ) at the external download site and link to it here. :pushpin:

GaryGB


Hi Gary,

Here's the link: I hope I did it right. If not, let me know.

 
Hi Gary,

I don't think I used the correct link. This should be it:


 
Hi Ken:

I had no security alert by MalwareBytes BrowserGuard FireFox Extension when I downloaded the linked ZIP @ MediaFire.


AFAIK, I see in FS the same as you show in the screenshots included with the *.FLT files.

Please explain what anomalies you see within the screenshots included with the *.FLT files:

KCLT Ramp 1.jpg: ?

KCLT Ramp 2.jpg: ?

KCLT Ramp 3.jpg: ?

KCLT Ramp 4.jpg: ?

GaryGB
 
Hi Ken:

I had no security alert by MalwareBytes BrowserGuard FireFox Extension when I downloaded the linked ZIP @ MediaFire.


AFAIK, I see in FS the same as you show in the screenshots included with the *.FLT files.

Please explain what anomalies you see within the screenshots included with the *.FLT files:

KCLT Ramp 1.jpg: ?

KCLT Ramp 2.jpg: ?

KCLT Ramp 3.jpg: ?

KCLT Ramp 4.jpg: ?

GaryGB


Hi Gary,

The screenshot ramps 1, 2, 3, and 4 are all the same, there're just taking at different angles so maybe you can see what I'm talking about. I've posted the anomaly in post #25. The problem is that when I use IS3 to place my ramp, some of it disappears under the FSDT parking space. Do you see that happening here in this image:


KCLT G Poly Ramp.jpg



The part where it's all jagged disappears under the FSDT ground poly, and it should go all the way to the end and cover the entire parking space. Did you see those anomalies in the screenshots I sent you? It's a little hard to describe in a photo because it's there and then it's gone, depending on where you move it, as you're trying to place it using IS3. When it's gone or bits of it disappears, it's under the FSDT ground model. That's the best way I can describe it. Will you send me your screenshots and let me see if you're seeing the same thing I see?

Ken.
 
Hi Ken:

Before I post the screenshots of what I see after launching your *.FLTs linked above to illustrate how they they appear the same as yours, since the issue you seem most concerned about is the intermittent display of your custom G-Poly relative to FSDTs G-Poly of the parking lot surface under the new terminal area, please also provide a *.FLT for the top-down view shown in Post #25 and #52 immediately above using the FinneyGround Crosshairs_Plus aircraft.

This would ensure that I have the exact same parameters applicable on my FS installation as you do when the 'flickering' and 'jagged edge' anomaly appears.

My reply should then properly consist of (5) screenshots to compare with those you have attached / linked to above ...showing the area of the anomaly.


NOTE: Please put the *.FLT file for the top-down view shown in Post #25 and #52 immediately above using the FinneyGround Crosshairs_Plus aircraft into a ZIP, and attach it directly to this thread at FSDEV so we can again test whether MalwareBytes BrowserGuard FireFox Extension throws another security alert.

If it does, I will request that you once again link to your intended download at a remote site such as DropBox, Google Drive, MS OneDrive, MediaFire etc.. ;)


Additionally we must identify whether the anomaly is only seen when IS3 is actually loading / moving your G-Poly, instead of when loaded by FS itself.

FYI: If, after created / edited by IS3, the BGL which places your G-Poly has been relocated into a new folder chain physically separate and distinct from the original folder chain where it was last located curing creation / editing, and after re-starting FS, that BGL is loaded directly by FS using DirectX.

Otherwise, your G-Poly is instead being loaded indirectly by IS3 ...which is / displaying the G-Poly using OpenGL.

GaryGB
 
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Hi Ken:

Before I post the screenshots of what I see after launching your *.FLTs linked above to illustrate how they they appear the same as yours, since the issue you seem most concerned about is the intermittent display of your custom G-Poly relative to FSDTs G-Poly of the parking lot surface under the new terminal area, please also provide a *.FLT for the top-down view shown in Post #25 and #52 immediately above using the FinneyGround Crosshairs_Plus aircraft.

Hi Gary,

I need to find out how you want this tope down view to be shown when using the FinneyGround Crosshairs Plus. There are 2 ways to do this. I can use the top down view as viewed from FS with the crosshair on the ground or reference the view coming from the FinneyGrouond Crosshairs Plus. I figured you probably want it viewed from the FinneyGround Crosshair so I used it fist. But as I was rising into the air using the FinneyGround, another strange thing happened. As my altitude was increasing, my ramp poly slowly disappeared. I wanted to get high enough so that I can get the same wide angle shot as in post 25 and 52. I just now noticed this while trying to get the same shot from the FinneyGround, and I won't be able to because my ramp slowly disappears as I'm going through about 500 feet above ground level. Above that altitude, it's as thought I never placed my ramp and it doesn't show at all when I get high above the airport. I've never seen anything so strange, and it makes me wonder if the ramp is actually placed or installed. But we got to remember that everything we're looking at on the ground is an mdl and not just simply bgl files with textures. I can send you those screenshots, but it will have to be shots taken from the FS top down view with the FinneyGround Crosshair on the ground. But now that I've discovered this new anomaly, that's something we got to figure out.

Ken.
 
Hi Ken:

For this, I would just use a Top-Down view with the FinneyGround Crosshairs_Plus aircraft on the local ground surface.

GaryGB
 
Hi Ken:

For this, I would just use a Top-Down view with the FinneyGround Crosshairs_Plus aircraft on the local ground surface.

GaryGB


Hi Gary,

Here's the zip file, and contains the FLT top down view and the screenshot.

Ken.
 

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Hi Ken:

When attempting to download your attachment linked immediately above, MalwareBytes BrowserGuard FireFox Extension threw another security alert.

moz-extension://1b91551d-3e5f-40dc-b7e7-97afa2266223/app/eventpages/block.html?referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fsdeveloper.com%2Fforum%2Fthreads%2Fportion-of-terminal-building-is-underground.447636%2Fpage-3%23post-846210&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fsdeveloper.com%2Fforum%2Fattachments%2Fkclt-ramp-zip.58818%2F&host=www.fsdeveloper.com&type=scam&subtype=suspiciousDownload&tabId=null&filename=KCLT+Ramp.zip


fsdeveloper_kmanning_attachment_download_blocked_by_malwarebytes-2-jpg.58829


FYI: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/malwarebytes/


I must request that you once again link to your intended download at a remote site such as DropBox, Google Drive, MS OneDrive, MediaFire etc.. ;)

GaryGB
 

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Hi Gary,

It must be a false positive. Here's the link from MediFire:

 
Hi Ken:

Here's my screenshots generated in FSX from your saved FS *.FLT files linked above; note that they were not taken with Instant Scenery running / loading 3D models.

ggb_fsdt_kclt_flt-1-jpg.58849


ggb_fsdt_kclt_flt-2-jpg.58850


ggb_fsdt_kclt_flt-3-jpg.58851


ggb_fsdt_kclt_flt-4-jpg.58852


ggb_fsdt_kclt_top-down_anomaly-5-jpg.58853


IIRC, the only image which shows a anomaly with your irregularly shaped G-Poly is the last image #5 ?

Or was your intended area and intent of coverage for your G-Poly a complete rectangle on the N-S, E-W axes instead of irregular in shape ? :scratchch

If the latter, please let me know in a reply here, and I shall analyze scenery objects and files in the area to see whether terrain mesh or a G-Poly is involved in this.


Also, please confirm whether you placed your G-Poly using Instant Scenery and not with L-M's P3D SimDirector at all times in the history of that placement BGL.

Additionally, please confirm whether you placed your G-Poly using Instant Scenery and not with Arno's MCX object placer at all times in the history of that placement BGL.


PS: Please attach the mapped textures for your new terminal 3D model (they are missing in the original attachment above) ...so I can see it properly for testing purposes. ;)



GaryGB
 

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Hi Gary,

You're seeing the very same things I'm seeing. All of those images show the strange anomalies that I've been referring to, but number 5 is more noticeable. I've attached the screenshots you sent me and edited them showing a red and black line to show where the problem begins and where the edges should go. The colors in Red shows where my ramp begins to disappear under the FSDT terrain. The colors in Black show where the ramp should be visible and extend to the end of the
runway. Here're the images:


GGB_FSDT_KCLT_FLT-1.jpg



GGB_FSDT_KCLT_FLT-2.jpg



GGB_FSDT_KCLT_FLT-3.jpg



GGB_FSDT_KCLT_FLT-4.jpg



GGB_FSDT_KCLT_Top-Down_Anomaly-5.jpg




Ken.
 
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