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FSXA Soloy project - Engine displays

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The sdk is driving me crazy with turboprop engines displays.

I want to cover RR/Allison 250-C20S Turboshaft engine parameters to my current Soloy Cessna 206 project. See showroom http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/cessna-u206g-soloy-turbine-pac-mark-i-ii.431628/

I have only 5 gauges to display. They are Torque, ToT, Eng Oil °C/PSI, N1 and NP. Airfile is 80 percent finished.

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First I did a research on SDK. I found:

Torque: (A:ENG TORQUE:index) Torque Foot -> pounds
TOT Turbine Outlet Temperature: (A:ENG EXHAUST GAS TEMPERATURE:index) Exhaust gas temperature -> Rankine
Engine Oil Temp: (A:ENG OIL TEMPERATURE:index) Engine oil temperature -> Rankine
Engine Oil Pressure: (A:ENG OIL PRESSURE:index) Engine oil pressure -> Pounds per square foot
N1 Gas Generator: (Nh,Ng) (A:ENG N1,percent)
NP Propeller RPM: (A : PROP RPM,unit) Propeller rpm Rpm

Questions: Are these working for turboprob engines? If not which are better ones?

I am a beginner with turboprob engines and it is my first FSX/P3D plane. So any help is more than welcome.

Thomas
 
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You can change units for the SimVars at will as long as they make sense for the given parameter.

Try:
Code: 
(A:ENG TORQUE:1, psi) (as used on the instrument)
(A:ENG EXHAUST GAS TEMPERATURE:1, celsius)
(A:ENG OIL TEMPERATURE:1, celsius)
(A:ENG OIL PRESSURE:1, psi)
(A:TURB ENG N1:1,percent)
(A:PROP RPM:1, rpm)
 
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Heretic said:
You can change units for the SimVars at will as long as they make sense for the given parameter.

Try:
Code: 
(A:ENG TORQUE:1, psi) (as used on the instrument)
(A:ENG EXHAUST GAS TEMPERATURE:1, celsius)
(A:ENG OIL TEMPERATURE:1, celsius)
(A:ENG OIL PRESSURE:1, psi)
(A:TURB ENG N1:1,percent)
(A:PROP RPM:1, rpm)
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Thank you for the quick anwer. This gives me the green sign.
 
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It would be nice if you reported back with which of these variables worked or which ones you've used in the end.
 
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Heretic said:
It would be nice if you reported back with which of these variables worked or which ones you've used in the end.
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Okay, here is my first try. Only Turb Eng N1 is working fine. Keyframe animation of each are 0,25,50,75,100

Torque:

Code: 
<Animation name="needle_torque" guid="8cced466-fc68-47ce-8087-a9246c87b192" type="Sim" typeParam2="needle_torque" length="100" typeParam="AutoPlay" />
  <PartInfo>
    <Name>needle_torque</Name>
       <AnimLength>100</AnimLength>
         <Animation>
            <Parameter>
              <Sim>
                <Variable>ENG TORQUE:1</Variable>
                <Units>psi</Units>
                <Scale>100</Scale>
              </Sim>
           </Parameter>
    </Animation>
  </PartInfo>

It is not running - needle stays at 0.


TOT:

Code: 
<Animation name="needle_tot" guid="72fadeee-ba7e-41be-95f7-0ccbf9431e23" type="Sim" typeParam2="needle_tot" length="100" typeParam="AutoPlay" />
  <PartInfo>
    <Name>needle_tot</Name>
      <AnimLength>100</AnimLength>
        <Animation>
          <Parameter>
            <Sim>
               <Variable>ENG EXHAUST GAS TEMPERATURE:1</Variable>
               <Units>celsius</Units>
               <Scale>100</Scale>
             </Sim>
          </Parameter>
        </Animation>
  </PartInfo>

TOT starts at KF 0 is rising immedately to kf100


Eng Oil Celsius:

Code: 
<Animation name="needle_eng_oil_c" guid="8dbc3b1f-8ab0-4f60-aa42-a6c94d6103ae" type="Sim" typeParam2="needle_eng_oil_c" length="100" typeParam="AutoPlay" />
  <PartInfo>
    <Name>needle_eng_oil_c</Name>
       <AnimLength>100</AnimLength>
         <Animation>
           <Parameter>
             <Sim>
               <Variable>ENG OIL TEMPERATURE:1</Variable>
               <Units>celsius</Units>
               <Scale>100</Scale>
             </Sim>
          </Parameter>
      </Animation>
  </PartInfo>

Needle Celsius stays at KF100


Eng Oil PSI:

Code: 
<Animation name="needle_eng_oil_psi" guid="71bf8869-2c85-407f-afed-8e0d6969766e" type="Sim" typeParam2="needle_eng_oil_psi" length="100" typeParam="AutoPlay" />
  <PartInfo>
    <Name>needle_eng_oil_psi</Name>
      <AnimLength>100</AnimLength>
        <Animation>
          <Parameter>
            <Sim>
               <Variable>ENG OIL PRESSURE:1</Variable>
               <Units>psi</Units>
               <Scale>100</Scale>
            </Sim>
       </Parameter>
    </Animation>
  </PartInfo>

Needle starts at KF 0, than rising immedately to kf100


Turb Eng N1:

Code: 
<Animation name="needle_n1" guid="9de7915e-9b47-4ec0-a9d5-38d63ac5ecba" type="Sim" typeParam2="needle_n1" length="100" typeParam="AutoPlay" />
  <PartInfo>
    <Name>needle_n1</Name>
      <AnimLength>100</AnimLength>
        <Animation>
           <Parameter>
             <Sim>
               <Variable>TURB ENG N1:1</Variable>
               <Units>position</Units>
               <Scale>100</Scale>
             </Sim>
         </Parameter>
  </Animation>
  </PartInfo>

This is the only one, that works fine!!!


NP - Prop RPM:

Code: 
<Animation name="needle_np" guid="2107f7c1-9b6d-492f-800b-abd7cc223d7d" type="Sim" typeParam2="needle_np" length="100" typeParam="AutoPlay" />
  <PartInfo>
    <Name>needle_np</Name>
       <AnimLength>100</AnimLength>
         <Animation>
           <Parameter>
             <Sim>
               <Variable>PROP RPM:1</Variable>
                <Units>rpm</Units>
                <Scale>100</Scale>
             </Sim>
          </Parameter>
     </Animation>
  </PartInfo>

Prop RPM stay at KF100...
 
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You are totally misunderstanding the purpose of the <Scale>100</Scale> entry!

Here is a template formula that illustrates how it is to be used:
Code: 
SIM: Converts simvar to keyframes: simvar * scale + bias = keyframes
Let's take a look at your script for the EGT. The range on the gauge face goes from 0ºC to 1,000ºC and the number of keyframes is 100. Since we don't need a <Bias> for this gauge, we can simplify the formula to find out what the <Scale> should be:
Code: 
keyframes / max simvar = scale

Take the number of keyframes and divide by the highest possible sim value.

100/1000 = 0.1

Try using this instead of what you have now:
Code: 
  <PartInfo>
    <Name>needle_tot</Name>
      <AnimLength>100</AnimLength>
        <Animation>
          <Parameter>
            <Sim>
               <Variable>ENG EXHAUST GAS TEMPERATURE:1</Variable>
               <Units>celsius</Units>
               <Scale>0.1</Scale>
             </Sim>
          </Parameter>
        </Animation>
  </PartInfo>
 
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Bill, thank you very much for opening my eyes. Yes the scale...

All gauges except Torque are working now. ENG TORQUE:1 stays on 0. I redo animation with no success, key Frame settings are correct. Part Name is also correct. New guid. Perhaps missing tab in airfile?

Thomas
 
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Tried "foot pounds" as a unit?

The N1-torque relation is defined in Table 1508, according to Yves Guillaume's doc on FSX' flight dynamics.
 
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Heretic said:
Tried "foot pounds" as a unit?

The N1-torque relation is defined in Table 1508, according to Yves Guillaume's doc on FSX' flight dynamics.
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"Foot Pounds" as unit is working now - great. Really helpful. And yes, tab 1508 was on board. After some try and error with the scales - all engine displays are running now. Perfect for fine tuning gauges display and airfiles...
 
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