Apron lighting using effects and GMax - Revision history

BASys: Categorised as - GMax & content related

2020-10-24T17:08:29Z

Categorised as - GMax & content related

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 The workaround is simple.   Create 3 GMAX files, one for each set of 1000 attachpoints, and export them as seperate MDL files.   Then, place all these MDL files in the same location.   Problem sorted! :)

BASys: Undo revision 10086 by MichaelCox (talk)

2016-03-03T20:17:56Z

Undo revision 10086 by MichaelCox (talk)

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	== Using the Attachtool Script ==		== Using the Attachtool Script ==

	You can use the attach tool that ~~microshit~~ kindly supplied. This can be a time consuming method as you must run the tool against every object separately. In fact, the more I think about it... you would be crazy to place this many lights using this method :) Forget I even wrote this.... unless you are a glutton for punishment.		You can use the attach tool that Microsoft kindly supplied. This can be a time consuming method as you must run the tool against every object separately. In fact, the more I think about it... you would be crazy to place this many lights using this method :) Forget I even wrote this.... unless you are a glutton for punishment.

	== Placing the Effect using a script for multiple objects ==		== Placing the Effect using a script for multiple objects ==
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	== Creating a bounding box ==		== Creating a bounding box ==
	Once you have placed all of your lights and h ... \n		Once you have placed all of your lights and have attached your effects, you must create a transparent bounding box around the entire set of lights / boxes. To do this simply draw a box, and ensure that it encompasses all the boxes / lights, and then apply a standard texture. Once that is done, set the texture to "0" opacity, then convert the box to an Editable Mesh.

	=~~= private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm =~~=		= Exporting to Flight Simulator =

	~~Offers private label cosmetics with custom design. We produce lip balms, serum, creams~~ and ~~more~~. ~~Easy to buy with eshop~~. ~~Private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm~~		Export the Boxes (now named attachpt_whatever) and the bounding box to a MDL file. Place this MDL file in the usual manner.

	~~[[http://ultra-high-end~~.~~com/custom-made.html private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm]]~~		I would strongly suggest that the lights are placed a little above the ground as this will stop the flickering of the lights.

	~~[[http://ultra-high-end.com/custom-made.html private label cosmetics~~, ~~custom made cosmetic~~, ~~custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm]]~~		You may, of course, want to edit the MDL parameters using the MDLTweaker tool before compiling to your BGL library. You should now have ground lighting!

	== ~~private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm~~ ==		== I cannot see all my lights - Effect.cfg ==

	~~Offers private label cosmetics with custom design. We produce lip balms~~, ~~serum, creams and more~~. ~~Easy~~ to ~~buy with eshop~~. ~~Private label cosmetics~~, ~~custom made cosmetic~~, ~~custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm~~		Due to a limitation in the FS Game engine, you need to add a file called effect.cfg into your Effects folder to ensure that all your lighting shows up. (There is, of course, a MDL limitation of about 2000 objects - but this is not what I am referring to here).

	~~[[http~~:~~//ultra-high-end.com/custom-made.html private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm]]~~		The file must contain:

	[~~[http://ultra-high-end.com~~/~~custom-made.html private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm]]~~		<pre>
			[Sprite Limit]
			Medium=500
			High=9999999999
			Low=100
			</pre>

	== ~~private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm~~ ==		== Scenery Excludes and Library Objects with Attached Effects ==

	~~Offers private label cosmetics with custom design~~. ~~We produce lip balms, serum, creams and more~~. ~~Easy~~ to ~~buy with eshop~~. ~~Private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm~~		There is a "feature" of the Flight simulator Exclude XML that causes effects to dissapear if you exclude Library Objects. What this means is that the RefPoint of your excluded MDL must NOT have an exclude that includes Library Objects. The best method is to create small excludes around object you want to get rid of.

	~~[[http://ultra-high-end.com/custom-made.html private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm]]~~		== View Limitation of the Effects ==

	~~[[http://ultra-high-end~~.~~com/custom-made~~.~~html private label cosmetics~~, ~~custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm]]~~		There is a limitation on the view distance of an effect. For apron lighting this should not really matter, but if you are creating runway lights it may. The answer is to create LOD's of your placed effects and use a "brighter" effect on each LOD. The way you give this impression of brightness is to actully increase the size of the effect itself. This way, the lights show up at a distance.

	== ~~private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm~~ ==		== Effects and how they affect framerates ==

	~~Offers private label cosmetics with custom design. We produce lip balms~~, ~~serum~~, ~~creams and more~~. ~~Easy to buy with eshop~~. ~~Private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm~~		Effects, IMHO, have very little effect on framerates.... but they DO have an effect. There has been a few threads on the forum regarding this subject.

	~~[[http:~~//~~ultra~~-~~high-end.com~~/~~custom-made.html private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm]]~~		//(Is it affect, effect or what? - the dictionary does not help here)//

	~~[[http://ultra-high-end~~.~~com/custom-made~~.~~html private label cosmetics~~, ~~custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm]]~~		It's indeed "effect". Affect is a verb, generally. Of course, so is effect sometimes. Gotta love English ;-)

	== ~~private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm~~ ==		== Limitation of 2000 attachpoints per GMAX export ==

	~~Offers private label cosmetics with custom design. We produce lip balms~~, ~~serum~~, ~~creams~~ and ~~more~~. ~~Easy to buy with eshop~~. ~~Private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm~~		If you are creating a ground layout of lets say 1000 Effects, and then you lay down those effects again for night=1, again for dusk=1 and again for dawn=1 you now have 3000 attachpoints. You will get an error of "Too Many Objects" when exporting using MakeMDL.

	~~[[http://ultra-high-end~~.~~com/custom-made~~.~~html private label cosmetics~~, ~~custom made cosmetic~~, ~~custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm]]~~		Now... here is a "gotcha" as well... if you had this GMAX scene, with these 3000 objects and selected only 1000 of them for "Export Selected" this will still fail!. The reason is that MakeMDL will ALWAYS try to export any attachpoint in your scene, even if you did not select the object that those attachpoints were attached to. Get me? :)

	~~[[http://ultra-high-end.com/custom-made~~.~~html private label cosmetics~~, ~~custom made cosmetic~~, ~~custom made cream~~, ~~custom lip stick lip balm~~]]		The workaround is simple. Create 3 GMAX files, one for each set of 1000 attachpoints, and export them as seperate MDL files. Then, place all these MDL files in the same location. Problem sorted! :)

			[[Category:Airport Design]]
			[[category:Scenery Design]]
			[[category:Effects]]

MichaelCox: minor updates

2016-03-03T14:06:38Z

minor updates

← Older revision		Revision as of 09:06, 3 March 2016
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	== Using the Attachtool Script ==		== Using the Attachtool Script ==

	You can use the attach tool that ~~Microsoft~~ kindly supplied. This can be a time consuming method as you must run the tool against every object separately. In fact, the more I think about it... you would be crazy to place this many lights using this method :) Forget I even wrote this.... unless you are a glutton for punishment.		You can use the attach tool that microshit kindly supplied. This can be a time consuming method as you must run the tool against every object separately. In fact, the more I think about it... you would be crazy to place this many lights using this method :) Forget I even wrote this.... unless you are a glutton for punishment.

	== Placing the Effect using a script for multiple objects ==		== Placing the Effect using a script for multiple objects ==
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	== Creating a bounding box ==		== Creating a bounding box ==
	Once you have placed all of your lights and ~~have attached your effects, you must create a transparent bounding box around the entire set of lights / boxes~~. ~~To do this simply draw a box, and ensure that it encompasses all the boxes / lights, and then apply a standard texture~~. ~~Once that is done, set the texture to "0" opacity, then convert the box to an Editable Mesh~~.		Once you have placed all of your lights and h ... \n

	= ~~Exporting to Flight Simulator~~ =		== private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm ==

	~~Export the Boxes (now named attachpt_whatever)~~ and ~~the bounding box~~ to ~~a MDL file. Place this MDL file in the usual manner~~.		Offers private label cosmetics with custom design. We produce lip balms, serum, creams and more. Easy to buy with eshop. Private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm

	~~I would strongly suggest that the lights are placed a little above the ground as this will stop the flickering of the lights~~.		[[http://ultra-high-end.com/custom-made.html private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm]]

	~~You may~~, ~~of course~~, ~~want to edit the MDL parameters using the MDLTweaker tool before compiling to your BGL library. You should now have ground lighting!~~		[[http://ultra-high-end.com/custom-made.html private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm]]

	== ~~I cannot see all my lights - Effect.cfg~~ ==		== private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm ==

	~~Due to a limitation in the FS Game engine~~, ~~you need to add a file called effect~~.~~cfg into your Effects folder~~ to ~~ensure that all your lighting shows up~~. ~~(There is~~, ~~of course~~, ~~a MDL limitation of about 2000 objects - but this is not what I am referring to here).~~		Offers private label cosmetics with custom design. We produce lip balms, serum, creams and more. Easy to buy with eshop. Private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm

	~~The file must contain~~:		[[http://ultra-high-end.com/custom-made.html private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm]]

	~~<pre>~~		[[http://ultra-high-end.com/custom-made.html private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm]]
	[~~Sprite Limit~~]
	~~Medium=500~~
	~~High=9999999999~~
	~~Low=100~~
	~~</pre>~~

	== ~~Scenery Excludes and Library Objects with Attached Effects~~ ==		== private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm ==

	~~There is a "feature" of the Flight simulator Exclude XML that causes effects to dissapear if you exclude Library Objects~~. ~~What this means is that the RefPoint of your excluded MDL must NOT have an exclude that includes Library Objects~~. ~~The best method is to create small excludes around object you want~~ to ~~get rid of~~.		Offers private label cosmetics with custom design. We produce lip balms, serum, creams and more. Easy to buy with eshop. Private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm

	~~== View Limitation of the Effects ==~~		[[http://ultra-high-end.com/custom-made.html private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm]]

	~~There is a limitation on the view distance of an effect~~. ~~For apron lighting this should not really matter~~, but if you are creating runway lights it may. The answer is to create LOD's of your placed effects and use a "brighter" effect on each LOD. The way you give this impression of brightness is to actully increase the size of the effect itself. This way, ~~the lights show up at a distance.~~		[[http://ultra-high-end.com/custom-made.html private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm]]

	== ~~Effects and how they affect framerates~~ ==		== private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm ==

	~~Effects~~, ~~IMHO~~, ~~have very little effect on framerates~~..~~.. but they DO have an effect. There has been a few threads on the forum regarding this subject.~~		Offers private label cosmetics with custom design. We produce lip balms, serum, creams and more. Easy to buy with eshop. Private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm

	//~~(Is it affect, effect or what?~~ - ~~the dictionary does not help here)/~~/		[[http://ultra-high-end.com/custom-made.html private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm]]

	~~It's indeed "effect"~~. ~~Affect is a verb~~, ~~generally. Of course~~, ~~so is effect sometimes. Gotta love English ;-)~~		[[http://ultra-high-end.com/custom-made.html private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm]]

	== ~~Limitation of 2000 attachpoints per GMAX export~~ ==		== private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm ==

	~~If you are creating a ground layout of lets say 1000 Effects~~, ~~and then you lay down those effects again for night=1~~, ~~again for dusk=1~~ and ~~again for dawn=1 you now have 3000 attachpoints~~. ~~You will get an error of "Too Many Objects" when exporting using MakeMDL~~.		Offers private label cosmetics with custom design. We produce lip balms, serum, creams and more. Easy to buy with eshop. Private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm

	~~Now~~..~~. here is a "gotcha" as well... if you had this GMAX scene~~, ~~with these 3000 objects and selected only 1000 of them for "Export Selected" this will still fail!. The reason is that MakeMDL will ALWAYS try to export any attachpoint in your scene~~, ~~even if you did not select the object that those attachpoints were attached to. Get me? :)~~		[[http://ultra-high-end.com/custom-made.html private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm]]

	~~The workaround is simple~~. ~~Create 3 GMAX files~~, ~~one for each set of 1000 attachpoints~~, ~~and export them as seperate MDL files. Then~~, ~~place all these MDL files in the same location. Problem sorted! :)~~		[[http://ultra-high-end.com/custom-made.html private label cosmetics, custom made cosmetic, custom made cream, custom lip stick lip balm]]

	~~[[Category:Airport Design]]~~
	~~[[category:Scenery Design]]~~
	~~[[category:Effects~~]]

BASys: Reset MS Flight category to FALSE

2011-08-09T21:10:32Z

Reset MS Flight category to FALSE

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MarkkuS: Moved picture position else it was hiding the contents list

2010-12-04T16:41:54Z

Moved picture position else it was hiding the contents list

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	~~[[Image:apron.jpg\|right]]~~		= Introduction =

	~~= Introduction =~~		[[Image:apron.jpg]]

	There has always been some confusion regarding the limitations of placing effects as ground lighting in Flight Simulator. This document gives you complete and correct information regarding these matters and should ensure better scenery from all of you! Detailed below are my and other peoples findings summarized into one document.		There has always been some confusion regarding the limitations of placing effects as ground lighting in Flight Simulator. This document gives you complete and correct information regarding these matters and should ensure better scenery from all of you! Detailed below are my and other peoples findings summarized into one document.

BASys: /* Limitation of 2000 attachpoints per GMAX export */

2010-02-06T14:57:43Z

Limitation of 2000 attachpoints per GMAX export

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	The workaround is simple. Create 3 GMAX files, one for each set of 1000 attachpoints, and export them as seperate MDL files. Then, place all these MDL files in the same location. Problem sorted! :)		The workaround is simple. Create 3 GMAX files, one for each set of 1000 attachpoints, and export them as seperate MDL files. Then, place all these MDL files in the same location. Problem sorted! :)

			[[Category:Airport Design]]
	[[category:Scenery Design]]		[[category:Scenery Design]]
	[[category:Effects]]		[[category:Effects]]

Southwest: /* Drawing your light boxes */

2009-05-20T20:40:59Z

Drawing your light boxes

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	* '''SAVE''' your GMAX file and Archive this file as "Pre Effects attachment" or something simular. Never touch this file again :)		* '''SAVE''' your GMAX file and Archive this file as "Pre Effects attachment" or something simular. Never touch this file again :)

			A more in depth tutorial for developing the light box and material can be found here [http://southwestdesign.org.uk/tutorials/lights/lights_tutorial.htm here]

	= Placing the Effect Methods =		= Placing the Effect Methods =

Arno: Lighting - Apron - Using Effects And GMax moved to Apron lighting using effects and GMax

2008-07-06T19:09:31Z

Lighting - Apron - Using Effects And GMax moved to Apron lighting using effects and GMax

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Arno at 19:09, 6 July 2008

2008-07-06T19:09:05Z

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 The workaround is simple.   Create 3 GMAX files, one for each set of 1000 attachpoints, and export them as seperate MDL files.   Then, place all these MDL files in the same location.   Problem sorted! :)
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BASys: Using GMAX to Create Apron Lighting using Effects moved to Lighting - Apron - Using Effects And GMax: Titling Rationalisation

2008-04-25T18:57:36Z

Using GMAX to Create Apron Lighting using Effects moved to Lighting - Apron - Using Effects And GMax: Titling Rationalisation

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