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FS2004 Excluding default water flatten

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Dear All:

Is there a way to exclude the default water flatten using VTP or LWM excludes?

I have a mountain cut by a default water polygon.

SanLorenzoFS2004.jpg



Thanks.
Alfredo Mendiola Loyola
 
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The only thing I'm familiar with is SBuilderX. I would think you could make a poly to "exclude all terrain items" and that would remove the flatten, but that would also require you to go back in and add the water poly (hydro) to replace what was removed with the exclude.
 
No, which is why working in FSX is so much easier. The only option, I'm afraid, is to replace the entire FL9 or HP9 default file that is affected by your work.

At one time there was thought given to including a tool with scenery that would edit out LOD8 cells from an FL9 or HP9, so that the amount of scenery that had to be duplicated could be reduced, but I don't think anyone ever came up with a solution about what to do if a user tries to install two different sceneries that affect the same bgl.

There's also been discussion about whether or not it's OK to distribute a default HP9 file for example which the designer has removed a LOD8 cell from. I think the general feeling is that is a violation of the EULA, but I don't think MS really cares, at least for freeware.

scott s.
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Hi Alfredo:

With SBuilder for FS9 you can "Append" a copy of the HP*.BGL and FL*.BGL for the area in question.

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If uncertain as to which BGL files pertain to the FS9 scenery area of interest, this can be determined by using LWMViewer 1.x or 2.x:

http://www.jimkeir.co.uk/FlightSim/


When a COPY of that properly identified default LWM BGL is loaded up into SBuilder, the object outline for your water body and associated flatten are located among the many others likely to also be inside that large area of the BGL file within SBuilder by moving the connected FS aircraft to the area in question within a "connected" FS9 flight session and check "Show Aircraft" or entering the Geographic coordinates into "Go To Position" from:

SBuilder Menu > View


Once located, the object in question is selected, the selection is then "inverted" so that all other objects EXCEPT that object are selected instead; then the selected objects are deleted.

The object which remains is then used to edit the water poly to the desired shape, and will be used to replace the former default water poly and its associated water flatten.


Once again with SBuilder for FS9 you "Append" a copy of the ORIGINAL HP*.BGL and FL*.BGL for the area in question, and the object outline for your water body and associated flatten are located.

Once located, the water poly in question is selected and this time ONLY that poly is deleted similarly from both the HP*.BGl and FL*.BGL files.


To edit the BGL(s) containing only the water poly and water flatten in question, they should be Appended to SBuilder along with the edited BGL(s) containing all other water polys and water flattens except the one you are editing so you can identify any conflicting overlaps in the new shape of your edited water poly.


When finished, one would need to distribute BOTH sets of the edited HP*.BGl and FL*.BGL files... the ones with, and the ones without your modified water poly and flatten objects.

This is best done with a batch file (or very clear instructions) for the intended end user to avoid loss of a backup of original HP*.BGL and FL*.BGL files.


Jim Keir once wrote a prototype of a batch routine to implement these changed files on an end users system, and I believe it was called "BGLPatcher"... I can't locate the info right now, and I don't know if the project was ever released in any final form except in his SlartiBartFast utility.

[EDITED] 12-28-2009
Just found the info on Jim Keir's utility (actually named "BGLPatch"):

http://www.jimkeir.co.uk/FlightSim/Autogen/FAQ.html#FAQ13


Thus one can edit out the original water poly and flatten, then add back the desired water body LWM file in the appropriate shape to replace the original object that you took out.


Hope this helps ! :)

GaryGB
 
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GaryGB said:
Hi Alfredo:

With SBuilder for FS9 you can "Append" a copy of the HP*.BGL and FL*.BGL for the area in question.

Once loaded up in SBuilder, the object outline for your water body and associated flatten are located among the many others likely to also be inside that large area of the BGL file.

Once located, the object in question is selected, the selection is then "inverted" so that all other objects EXCEPT that object are selected instead; then the selected objects are deleted.

The object which remains is then used to edit the water poly to the desired shape, and will be used to replace the former default water poly and its associated water flatten.


Once again with SBuilder for FS9 you "Append" a copy of the ORIGINAL HP*.BGL and FL*.BGL for the area in question, and the object outline for your water body and associated flatten are located.

Once located, the water poly in question is selected and this time ONLY that poly is deleted similarly from both the HP*.BGl and FL*.BGL files.


To edit the BGL(s) containing only the water poly and water flatten in question, they should be Appended to SBuilder along with the edited BGL(s) containing all other water polys and water flattens except the one you are editing so you can identify any conflicting overlaps in the new shape of your edited water poly.


When finished, one would need to distribute BOTH sets of the edited HP*.BGl and FL*.BGL files... the ones with, and the ones without your modified water poly and flatten objects.

This is best done with a batch file (or very clear instructions) for the intended end user to avoid loss of a backup of original HP*.BGL and FL*.BGL files.


Jim Keir once wrote a prototype of a batch routine to implement these changed files on an end users system, and I believe it was called "BGLPatcher"... I can't locate the info right now, and I don't know if the project was ever released in any final form except in his SlartiBartFast utility.


Thus one can edit out the original water poly and flatten, then add back the desired water body LWM file in the appropriate shape to replace the original object that you took out.


Hope this helps ! :)

GaryGB
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Thank you for your help I solved the problem.

Thanks.
Alfredo Mendiola Loyola
Lima, Perú
 
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