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FSX Is there a new g__gleserver.dll?
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I don't think anyone else is having issues.
Dick
Dick
I just took a look with SBuilderX 64.
I've got an image at zoom = 17.
My experience with Google sat has been that sometimes it works OK, other times it is very slow downloading tiles and other times it seems to quit after a few.
Maybe it has to do with how busy they are, or local bandwith issues.
I've got an image at zoom = 17.
My experience with Google sat has been that sometimes it works OK, other times it is very slow downloading tiles and other times it seems to quit after a few.
Maybe it has to do with how busy they are, or local bandwith issues.
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Could be, tried it again last night. Same deal. Anything over Zoom Level 13 draws blank. Google only. Other services are providing a Zoom Level 18 of same area, just a little bit more outdated and less colorful. That's why I was suspicious of the DLL.
I've also noted that the area of interest now has 3D Elevation data, again making me suspicious of the DLL or how the server now shares the data.
I'll keep trying.
Thanks,
David
I've also noted that the area of interest now has 3D Elevation data, again making me suspicious of the DLL or how the server now shares the data.
I'll keep trying.
Thanks,
David
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Some areas are only covered to zoom 13 by Google. Not the fault of SBuilderX. If the tile is available in Luis' gmaps, then it is available in SBuilderX:
http://www.ptsim.com/sbuilder/gmaps.htm
Dick
http://www.ptsim.com/sbuilder/gmaps.htm
Dick
Hello:
As an additional consideration, I have noticed that in SBuilder, when one sees "normal / visible" aerial imagery tiles:
* at varying levels of zoom with a white image interspersed on zoom levels at or below the maximum known available zoom for an area
...or if:
* during a previous session (ex: while reconnoitering an area before final downloading of additional contiguous tiles wanted for a project), then during a subsequent aerial imagery tile download session one sees a white image for 'portions' of the project area interspersed at the same or varying zoom levels
...one may have to delete the tile folder for that particular tile server to reset the tile info within SBuilder for ones project, as suggested here:
http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/how-to-update-sbuilderx.316303/
However, it seems that the OP is describing use of tiles that were downloaded with GMAP
and loaded via SBuilder's "Add Map > From Disk.
IIUC, SBuilder does not automatically attempt to "fill-in" zoom levels for such tiles using the built-in aerial imagery tile downloader feature when the project area is displayed using only tiles that were downloaded with GMAP and loaded via SBuilder's "Add Map > From Disk".
One might wonder, however, whether SBuilder may become 'confused' if one subsequently adds aerial imagery tiles (using the built-in aerial imagery tile downloader feature) ...into the working set of tiles already loaded via SBuilder's "Add Map > From Disk" in the displayed project workspace, and whether this might thus compel deleting one's tile folder for that particular tile server to reset the tile info within SBuilder for ones project ?
Perhaps Dick might offer further comment on this possibility ?
UPDATED: I had not yet seen these threads at the "official SBuilder forum, which suggest that Google is now using different aerial imagery tile server URLs for various LOD / zoom levels, and this suggests that when such Zoom level imagery tile dropouts are seen, it may result in a need for Dick to issue an updated tile server DLL file:
http://www.ptsim.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2396
http://www.ptsim.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2393
Many thanks to Dick for continuing to help the FS community and SBuilder users over the years !
GaryGB
As an additional consideration, I have noticed that in SBuilder, when one sees "normal / visible" aerial imagery tiles:
* at varying levels of zoom with a white image interspersed on zoom levels at or below the maximum known available zoom for an area
...or if:
* during a previous session (ex: while reconnoitering an area before final downloading of additional contiguous tiles wanted for a project), then during a subsequent aerial imagery tile download session one sees a white image for 'portions' of the project area interspersed at the same or varying zoom levels
...one may have to delete the tile folder for that particular tile server to reset the tile info within SBuilder for ones project, as suggested here:
http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/how-to-update-sbuilderx.316303/
However, it seems that the OP is describing use of tiles that were downloaded with GMAP
and loaded via SBuilder's "Add Map > From Disk.
IIUC, SBuilder does not automatically attempt to "fill-in" zoom levels for such tiles using the built-in aerial imagery tile downloader feature when the project area is displayed using only tiles that were downloaded with GMAP and loaded via SBuilder's "Add Map > From Disk".
One might wonder, however, whether SBuilder may become 'confused' if one subsequently adds aerial imagery tiles (using the built-in aerial imagery tile downloader feature) ...into the working set of tiles already loaded via SBuilder's "Add Map > From Disk" in the displayed project workspace, and whether this might thus compel deleting one's tile folder for that particular tile server to reset the tile info within SBuilder for ones project ?
Perhaps Dick might offer further comment on this possibility ?
UPDATED: I had not yet seen these threads at the "official SBuilder forum, which suggest that Google is now using different aerial imagery tile server URLs for various LOD / zoom levels, and this suggests that when such Zoom level imagery tile dropouts are seen, it may result in a need for Dick to issue an updated tile server DLL file:
http://www.ptsim.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2396
http://www.ptsim.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2393
Many thanks to Dick for continuing to help the FS community and SBuilder users over the years !
GaryGB
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If we had the coordinates, we might be able to reproduce the missing tiles. Gary's suggestion to delete the Google tile folders is a good one, as a tile already loaded doesn't get overwritten... so delete the folder and it will get rebuilt and filled with new tiles.
I mention Luis' GMap website because it loads the most recent tlles. (Version 203 as of today). If the area doesn't show the tiles for a level in GMap, it won't show the tiles in SBuilderX.
Dick
I mention Luis' GMap website because it loads the most recent tlles. (Version 203 as of today). If the area doesn't show the tiles for a level in GMap, it won't show the tiles in SBuilderX.
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I tried deleting the existing tiles with no luck. Gmaps is showing the tiles fine, with the new addition of elevation details (which prompted me to believe this was likely dll related).
Let me try V203 first, which was my original question. ;-)
Every time I've had a tile related issue it's been an outdated dll.
I'll try it tonight and let you know. Thanks!
Let me try V203 first, which was my original question. ;-)
Every time I've had a tile related issue it's been an outdated dll.
I'll try it tonight and let you know. Thanks!
Hi again:
I'm not quite understanding where the OP is seeing "elevation" information using the above "Luis' GMap website" cited by Dick.
I believe it might be helpful to the OP and other interested readers to distinguish "GMaps" (aka "Exploring Google Maps" by Luis Viera de Sa', the author of SBuilder for FS9 and SBuilderX):
http://www.ptsim.com/sbuilder/gmaps.htm
...and/or Dicks "RhumbaMaps" version of same at:
http://www.ludowise.x10host.com/gmaps/rhumbamaps.html
...from the actual Google Maps web site, and/or other references to 'GMaps' found via a Google search:
https://www.google.com/#q=GMaps
Using the FireShot plugin extension with Mozilla FireFox to capture a 24-bit *.BMP screenshot while also creating (ex: in Windows NotePad) a geo-referencing "world" file as an ASCII text file with the exact same filename prefix and a *.TXT file extension ...will allow these manually downloaded aerial imagery files to be loaded into a project via SBuilder's "Add Map > From Disk" feature.
http://getfireshot.com/
Info to be placed into the geo-referencing "world" file will, of course, be all the info appearing on screen within the text box area below this line on (either of) the above "Exploring Google Maps" web pages:
"The boundaries of the map are:"
The above cited "manually downloaded" aerial imagery screen capture 24-bit *.BMP files must also have the geo-referencing "world" file (with the exact same filename prefix and a *.TXT file extension) present within the same folder ...to allow SBuilder to load the file without manual geo-rectification via the SBuilder GUI during a "Add Map > From Disk" procedure.
BTW: After adding aerial imagery to a SBuilderX project, one may also opt to output GeoTiffs ...as described here:
http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/knowing-ulxmap-ulxmap-of-google-images.435782/#post-728697
Hope this helps a bit more !
GaryGB
I'm not quite understanding where the OP is seeing "elevation" information using the above "Luis' GMap website" cited by Dick.
I believe it might be helpful to the OP and other interested readers to distinguish "GMaps" (aka "Exploring Google Maps" by Luis Viera de Sa', the author of SBuilder for FS9 and SBuilderX):
http://www.ptsim.com/sbuilder/gmaps.htm
...and/or Dicks "RhumbaMaps" version of same at:
http://www.ludowise.x10host.com/gmaps/rhumbamaps.html
...from the actual Google Maps web site, and/or other references to 'GMaps' found via a Google search:
https://www.google.com/#q=GMaps
Using the FireShot plugin extension with Mozilla FireFox to capture a 24-bit *.BMP screenshot while also creating (ex: in Windows NotePad) a geo-referencing "world" file as an ASCII text file with the exact same filename prefix and a *.TXT file extension ...will allow these manually downloaded aerial imagery files to be loaded into a project via SBuilder's "Add Map > From Disk" feature.
http://getfireshot.com/
Info to be placed into the geo-referencing "world" file will, of course, be all the info appearing on screen within the text box area below this line on (either of) the above "Exploring Google Maps" web pages:
"The boundaries of the map are:"
The above cited "manually downloaded" aerial imagery screen capture 24-bit *.BMP files must also have the geo-referencing "world" file (with the exact same filename prefix and a *.TXT file extension) present within the same folder ...to allow SBuilder to load the file without manual geo-rectification via the SBuilder GUI during a "Add Map > From Disk" procedure.
BTW: After adding aerial imagery to a SBuilderX project, one may also opt to output GeoTiffs ...as described here:
http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/knowing-ulxmap-ulxmap-of-google-images.435782/#post-728697
Hope this helps a bit more !
GaryGB
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By elevation, I mean that in the zone I'm interested in, Google Maps now features 3D buildings and terrain elevation. Obviously they have changed GIS data sources, to incorporate an image satellite capable of elevation rendering.
Sorry if I confused you, and thanks Gary!
David
Sorry if I confused you, and thanks Gary!
David
Glad that helped.
FYI: Indeed, Google is incrementally adding more features from the Google Earth stand-alone application to the web browser-based Google Maps web site user interface at:
https://www.google.com/maps
The elevation data for "terrain" display typically made available via Google Maps / Google Earth is usually SRTM-derived 90 Meter or 76 Meter resolution; in a few locations it may be a special area of 30 Meter, or in rare cases, an even higher resolution.
Although technically one can access and use this elevation data via Sketchup or certain other applications, one is usually going to get "better" data via a much easier work-flow by direct download of DEMs / 'bare-Earth' DTMs on other dedicated GIS file servers.
GaryGB
FYI: Indeed, Google is incrementally adding more features from the Google Earth stand-alone application to the web browser-based Google Maps web site user interface at:
https://www.google.com/maps
The elevation data for "terrain" display typically made available via Google Maps / Google Earth is usually SRTM-derived 90 Meter or 76 Meter resolution; in a few locations it may be a special area of 30 Meter, or in rare cases, an even higher resolution.
Although technically one can access and use this elevation data via Sketchup or certain other applications, one is usually going to get "better" data via a much easier work-flow by direct download of DEMs / 'bare-Earth' DTMs on other dedicated GIS file servers.
GaryGB
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