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Hello,

Sorry if this question is put in the wrong place.

A collegue has installed WOAI and see no AI traffic on EBOS (Belgium) in FSX. I like to know if in it's flightplan EBOS is there.
If not how can he change the flightplan so that there is some AI flying on EBOS ?

Greetz. José.
 
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Hello

Sometimes there are minor problems with WOAI flightplans used in FSX. The problems usually are incorrect wing span data in the aircraft cfg. file of each plane. But not always. And not everyone has trouble. I think your WOAI package will tell if AI goes to that airport. There are free programs that will allow you to change flight plans, and change airports if you need to go that route. The WOAI web site can give you more info also. Let us know how you want to proceed and we can give you more help.

Bob
 
Hi,

Have searched a lot and just had a simmer who looked for me at EBOS FSX SP2 and didn't see any default AI aircraft. I asked him to do this test because I doubt the Afcad is not functioning after the SP2 update on his PC.
I do see default AI and have no SP2 update installed. Maybe this is the problem.
Used afcad file for FSX = http://users.skynet.be/maximil/AF2_EBOS_FSX.zip .
Can someone test this afcad file please.

Thanks. José.
 
There is default AI at the default EBOS. I have SP2, and when I loaded your AFCAD, there was no runway and there was autogen showing through aprons. When I opened the bgl. with ADE, there are so many errors that AI probably won't take-off or land there. AI was parked there, however. So it may not be an FSX , or SP problem. Did that afcad come with the WOAI file?

Bob
 
Hi,

Very strange. I am here on the EBOS scenery and everything looks normal: runway and default AI traffic. Sure you used the AF2_EBOS_FSX.bgl afcad file ? (from the link on this topic).
I will look via ADE if something is wrong.

And even by unchecking the aircraft casting shadow on the ground didn't help ?

Other people who have the same expeience ?

Greetz. José.
 
Yes, I used your afcad. Sounds like you've got some things working. Do you have WOAI traffic at EBOS yet?

Bob
 
Hi,

Good news then... however the problem is not mine but for a guy who uses my scenery (and afcad of course)and said he could not see any WOAI AI traffic on EBOS for FSX.
Is there perhaps something to be aware during installing the software ? Extra steps ? I suppose you use AF2_EBOS_FSX.bgl afcad.
Can you specify the AI movement please (hour when an AI is parked on EBOS) so that controlling is easier ?

Thanks for testing. Happy for myself... :D

Greetz. José.
 
My traffic settings are: airline 40%,and GA 40%. At 12:00GMT with your afcad I have two 737s, one airbus, and two GA aircraft. They take off normally. Again these are default.
Here are some photos. The first one is at the runway ready for take off.
View attachment 4417

View attachment 4418

Bob
 
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Hi Jose,

I downloaded your afcad from your posting in the WOAI forum and noticed the same points as Bob mentions. I also see no runway (also when I open it in ADE) but maybe the runway texture is a seperate item from the afcad ?

I saw AI traffic also, though I did not have time enough to look out for them taking off. I had the pleasure of seeing a couple of DC8's and the Antonov Design Bureau AN-124...

However, one point I noticed about your Afcad is that your gate sizes are quite large - e.g. you have 8 Heavy gates of 54 metres radius - even a A380 only needs 40 metres and I guess you don't get too many of those at EBOS. You also have 8 Medium gates with a radius of 38 metres each - if these are for 737's and Airbus narrow bodies, 18 will be quite enough.

The result is a lot of overlapping gates, which could give you some problems with traffic. Have you seen Reggie Fields gate size recommendations at http://www.flightsim2004-fanatics.com/FlightSim/FSXWingSpanValues.htm ? Reggie has done a lot of work on this aspect, amongst others and you will get better results if you work with his recommended values.

Best regards

Matthew
 
Jose

What Matthew says about parking radius is very important. I had an add on Corsair parking at airliner gates because I didn't have parking sizes that fit it better.

Bob
 
Jose

I used the afcad you linked too in post #4 above. I looked at the default EBOS before loading the new one so I could tell they are different. The airport in your pics and at your site looks much better than the default EBOS. Nice work. However I have SP2, and I see that your trees don't work in SP2. Is that why I can't see other things?

Bob
 
Hi,

Yes, the trees are not compatible with the SP2 update (placed with Whisplacer). Even de groundpoly's are displayed wrong I heard.
For what concerned these trees, it's mentioned in the download page they will be displayed as black poly's. But I had to say: in reality there are no trees there at all (only a few ones) and I put them there to enhance a little bit these group of houses (NewFiles.zip see screenie). :p
My scenery is also a little bit displayed according to the default EBOS.
Personally I suggest to remove this SP2 update.

Thanks anyway. José.
 
And there, of course, is the problem that developers face. My sim works better with SP2, but that is not the case with everyone. And let me say that I am not a developer. I have created many airports and repainted many planes and writen many flightplans, but all for my own enjoyment. I have a lot of respect for you guys that put your work out there for others to use. Did you get WOAI to work yet? I just opened one of their flightplan files and noticed that you need to have your traffic slider very high to see any of it. I run my slider at 40%. Most of the planes in the file I looked at were set to show higher than that.

Bob
 
Hi,

I heard that after updating the PC was working better. But I like to stay working without this SP2.
The WOAI was not my problem (didn't either install it) and as designer I don't fly so much anymore. I am working now on a new scenery and hope to release it very soon. And happy there are no trees there... :p

Thanks for specifying the issue to see AI traffic in this case... interesting indeed.

Greetz. José.
 
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