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From the SAMM Manual:
(SAMM will not convert aircraft models developed specifically for FSX or for FS2000 or earlier.

There are check boxes for FS9, FSX, and Other.

The above statement implies the SAMM will convert FS2002 models.

But it does not. It only seems to convert FS9/FS2004 models.

Are there any plans to make SAMM work with models other than FS9/FS2004?

Bob Macklin
Seattle, Wa.
 
There are check boxes for FS9, FSX, and Other.
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As noted on Page 2 of the manual, these checkboxes are for selecting which set of aircraft folders to use. You may have FS9 aircraft in your FSX aircraft folders.

[SAMM] only seems to convert FS9/FS2004 models.

Are there any plans to make SAMM work with models other than FS9/FS2004?
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Bob, not every aircraft will convert sucessfully with SAMM. Most FS8 aircraft I have encountered will. Perhaps you could send me a couple your aircraft folders, or links to those aircraft, that are giving you difficulty.

Don
 
Don,

Is FS2002 the same as FS8?

Every FS2002 airplane I have tried has given me the the message "Not a FS8 or FS9 airplane".

Every FS2004 airplane I have tried has worked.

Bob Macklin
 
FS8 is the same as FS2002.

In the context of SAMM, a FS8 aircraft is one that has been compiled with the compiler used with FS8. It doesn't mean any old aircraft that still works with FS8. If you are getting that error message, ir means the aircraft is of a vintage earlier than FS8 (or later than FS9).

As I suggested before, send me a couple of aircraft or links and I'll check them out.

Don
 
Don,

I have never used this attachment thing before. I think I have attached two sample files I tried.

Bob Macklin
Seattle, Wa.
 

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Bob, while those two aircraft may have been advertised as FS2002 aircraft, they use older technology.

SAMM only "understands" aircraft compiled with Microsoft's FS8 BGL compiler - which is also used for FS9 aircraft (but not FSX). If SAMM says it's not a FS8 or FS9 aircraft, you can be sure the .mdl format doesn't conform to that standard.

You can easily confirm this by opening the .mdl file with Notepad (or any other text or hex editor). Files compile with this compiler will start with the ASCII characters "RIFF".

Don
 
Don,

Thanks. When you download this stuff you don't have a clue what you will get.

I'm going to look at some stuff marked "FS2002/FS2004".

Bob Macklin
 
Before you get too "down" on freeware developers, those two aircraft are FS2002/FS8-compatible - despite the fact that they were created with an older compiler.

The technology used to create an add-on is usually of little relevance or concern to the users. How the add-on performs is the primary consideration. There's no need for developers to "reinvent the wheel" to accommodate each new release of FlightSim. Indeed, in my own case, I'm about to release an FSX/Orbx PNW/UTX Canada-compatible airport that includes .apis initially created for, I think, FS2000. (I am intentionally using buildings and other objects from an earlier release of that airport by another author - with his consent and assistance. Those object are still compatible with FSX and, as a user, you don't need to be aware their vintage.)

Perhaps I should have been clearer in the SAMM documentation as to what was meant by FS8/9 aircraft - though, in my own defense, I doubt there was much confusion with my reference to SAMM being unable to convert "FSX aircraft".

Don
 
Don,

I'm not really down on the other developers. Many are good and some are really bad. Many look nice but don't fly well.

My current interest is "Vintage" airport development. Mostly WWII military airports.

Last week in a download I found a "Vintage Vehicle" library package. They were all pre 1950 vehicles. I wish there were more available, 50's, 60's & 70's.

Bur I have really "Fallen In Love" with SAMM.

Bob Macklin
Seattle, Wa
 
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