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Apron ou polígono inclinado para um lado

Jorge Padilha

Jorge Padilha

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Olá pessoal, estou há um mês construindo um cenário sobre o terreno do MSFS2020., portanto sou novo nessa atividade.
Queria fazer um polígono ou avental inclinado para um lado.
Sei que pode parecer uma pergunta inocente, mas por enquanto é uma dúvida minha e não consigo melhorar o terreno do cenário sem esta dica.
Alguém pode me ajudar?
Obrigado.
 
This website uses English. You should use something like Google translate if you are unfamiliar with English.
 
I´m sorry. I thinked that would be automatic traduction.
Well, the title is : How to build a polygon or apron tilded to one side

I'd like to make a polygon or apron tilted to one side.

I know this may seem like an innocent question, but for now, it's just me, and I can't improve the terrain without this tip.

Can anyone help me?

Thanks.
 
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Jorge Padilha said:
I´m sorry. I thinked that would be automatic traduction.
Well, the title is : How to build a polygon or apron tilded to one side

I'd like to make a polygon or apron tilted to one side.

I know this may seem like an innocent question, but for now, it's just me, and I can't improve the terrain without this tip.

Can anyone help me?

Thanks.
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Hello:

Please mark your post with the version of FS that you are working with.

Some general info is here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=site:+www.fsdeveloper.com+ADE+sloped+Apron&client=firefox-b-1-e&sca_esv=791d36d7831626ad&channel=entpr&ei=c9W9aIDfF_ewptQP8PPJaQ&ved=0ahUKEwjA5P-RqsePAxV3mIkEHfB5Mg0Q4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=site:+www.fsdeveloper.com+ADE+sloped+Apron&gs_lp=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_qIBgGQBhO6BgYIARABGAm6BgQIAhgHkgcFMTEuMTWgB8LDAbIHBDkuMTW4B8sTwgcIMC4xNy43LjLIB1M&sclient=gws-wiz-serp


In all versions of FS, Aprons are intended to follow the Airport Reference Point (aka "ARP") Altitude in Properties, so AI Traffic works.


In ADE or SBuilderX, you can make a custom Terrain Polygon mapped with an 'Apron' texture, and set Altitude for each of its vertices.


You can also make a sloped flat surface 3D model of an Apron mapped with an 'Apron' texture, and set Altitude for each of its vertices.

That 'Ground Polygon' (aka "G-Poly" or "GP") can be made / placed using SCASM / ASM code, over a sloped Terrain flatten T.I.N. object.


Tell us the airport ICAO- and/or post screenshots of the scenery- you are working on, and we may be better able to help. ;)

GaryGB
 
GaryGB said:
Olá:

Por favor, marque sua postagem com a versão do FS com a qual você está trabalhando.

Algumas informações gerais estão aqui:

https://www.google.com/search?q=site:+www.fsdeveloper.com+ADE+sloped+Apron&client=firefox-b-1-e&sca_esv=791d36d7831626ad&channel=entpr&ei=c9W9aIDfF_ewptQP8PPJaQ&ved=0ahUKEwjA5P-RqsePAx V3mIkEHfB5Mg0Q4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=site:+www.fsdeveloper.com+ADE+inclinado+avental&gs_lp=_qIBgGQBhO6 BgYIARABGAm6BgQIAhgHkgcFMTEuMTWgB8LDAbIHBDkuMTW4B8sTwgcIMC4xNy43LjLIB1M&sclient=gws-wiz-serp


Em todas as versões do FS, os Aprons devem seguir a Altitude do Ponto de Referência do Aeroporto (também conhecido como "ARP") nas Propriedades, para que o Tráfego de IA funcione.


No ADE ou SBuilderX, você pode criar um polígono de terreno personalizado mapeado com uma textura 'Avental' e definir altitude para cada um dos seus vértices.


Você também pode criar um modelo 3D de superfície plana inclinada de um Apron mapeado com uma textura 'Apron' e definir a altitude para cada um dos seus vértices.

Esse 'Polígono de Solo' (também conhecido como "G-Poly" ou "GP") pode ser criado/colocado usando o código SCASM/ASM, sobre um objeto TIN de nivelamento de terreno inclinado.


Informe-nos o ICAO do aeroporto em que você está trabalhando e/ou publique capturas de tela do cenário. Assim, poderemos ajudar melhor.;)

Gary GB
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taria de fazer um polígono ou avental inclinado para um lado.
 
Thanks Gary,
As I understand the " Apron" polygon would have the same altitude of the airport, in case of AI Traffics.
But, even so, i get to modify the altitude of some vértices, as I need. Is that so ?
What do you mean with "Apron mapped with an 'Apron' texture" ?
So, I think that wiht a terrain polygon I get to modify the height of the certain vértices? Would be the better solutions for me.
The last question: How to modify the height of a vertice ? I get to modify only the x and Y axis, not the Z axis
Consider, that I works only wiht SDK.
I ´ll read your recomendation of article above.
Thanks a lot.
 
Jorge Padilha said:
At the time, my simulator is MSFS2020.
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Jorge Padilha said:
Thanks Gary,
As I understand the "Apron" polygon would have the same altitude of the airport, in case of AI Traffics.
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Correct.

Jorge Padilha said:
But, even so, I get to modify the altitude of some vértices, as I need. Is that so ?
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That depends on how the Apron is made:

* as a textured Polygon (default method) that becomes a 'merged' "Projected Mesh"

...or:

* as a textured flat 3D model placed separately from other terrain textures (NOT a default "Projected Mesh")


Jorge Padilha said:
What do you mean with "Apron mapped with an 'Apron' texture" ?
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For most users intending to utilize AI Traffic, FS (all versions) needs a flat and level surface with no edges, so it can "slew" aircraft via BGLs.


There are pros / cons to using that method; for realism, I personally prefer sloped airports if that matches IRL, and I do not use AI Traffic.

To make sloped airports requires sloped terrain mesh and/or TIN flattens; and in the case of MSFS, "TerraForming" may be used.


If display priority / bleed-thru of Aprons / other polygons on slopes is a problem, Aprons can be made / placed as textured 3D models.

That may be the best option in any version of FS, if one has a steep slope at an airport where realism is preferred.

The texture resolution and texture Material attributes can be comparable to that of a default projected mesh (except for rain effects ?)


Jorge Padilha said:
So, I think that with a terrain polygon I get to modify the height of certain vértices? Would be the better solutions for me.

The last question: How to modify the height of a vertex ? I get to modify only the x and Y axis, not the Z axis

Consider, that I works only with (MSFS) SDK (...and not ADE ?).

I´ll read your recommendation of article above.
Thanks a lot.
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The MSFS online SDK Docs may be your best resource for learning the methods MSFS SDK uses compared to older versions of FS2Kx:
https://docs.flightsimulator.com/html/Developer_Mode/Scenery_Editor/Objects/Apron_Objects.htm


https://www.google.com/search?q=site:+www.fsdeveloper.com+"MSFS"+Apron+"Slope"&client=firefox-b-1-e&sca_esv=759f56e08d27413b&channel=entpr&ei=wz--aITzFMH8ptQPlMyeyAw&ved=0ahUKEwjE4MnDj8iPAxVBvokEHRSmB8kQ4dUDCBA&oq=site:+www.fsdeveloper.com+"MSFS"+Apron+"Slope"&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiLnNpdGU6IHd3dy5mc2RldmVsb3Blci5jb20gIk1TRlMiIEFwcm9uICJTbG9wZSIyCBAhGKABGMMEMggQIRigARjDBEjOJFCJCljADXABeACQAQCYAWigAaQBqgEDMS4xuAEMyAEA-AEBmAIDoAKuAcICCBAAGLADGO8FwgILEAAYgAQYsAMYogSYAwCIBgGQBgWSBwMyLjGgB_kFsgcDMS4xuAepAcIHBTAuMi4xyAcG&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

GaryGB said:
Tell us the airport ICAO- and/or post screenshots of the scenery- you are working on, and we may be better able to help. ;)
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GaryGB
 
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