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Clouds...Flight

I have to admit that the trees blend pretty well with the ground...


But still: If the sim is just Hawaii, I'll say bye-bye.
 
Hughes-MDflyer4 said:
Microsoft mentioned the "world" in their announcement, so that pretty much kills the Hawaii only rumor.
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From the newly revised FAQ I note the following (emphasis mine):

The new “Microsoft Flight” retains the full fidelity simulation longtime fans have come to expect while offering all players a whole new look and feel, a wide range of new game play and challenges, persistent experiences and social connectivity.
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OMG! They put the word "simulation" back in again!!! :rotfl:

I note especially this statement (again, emphasis mine):
The addition of Games for Windows - LIVE creates an ubiquitous virtual world of flight that offers easy and engaging access to the magic of flight for all.
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Apparently the world doesn't begin and end with Hawai'i after all... :)
 
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n4gix said:
Apparently the world doesn't begin and end with Hawai'i after all... :)
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"Virtual world" doesn't necessarily mean the inclusion of the whole planet.

The Flight! "world" could still as well just include the Hawaiian islands where a few dozen virtual pilots per server crash, land, crash land, collide and ground loop their aircraft.


Seriously, without any screenshots of other parts of the world, I won't even consider Flight! being a global flight simulator.
 
That's not the only place they've mentioned world...

http://www.microsoft.com/games/flight/#news-flight-missions

"Of course, players can always choose to fly freely without guidance in order to simply enjoy the beauty of the world, fiddle with the knobs and switches in the cockpit, or put an aircraft through its paces. Each of these experiences is different and enriches the game overall, providing short-term and longer-term gameplay."

Sounds like a world simulator to me.
 
Brandon, every forum I've posted that message in has had at least a half-dozen who somehow manage to find the dark cloud in the silver lining...

...or the mouse pellet in the ambrosia... :(
 
There are only two ways to find out...
Either wait for the rest of the world to show up in the screenshots or videos...or wait until it comes out onto the markets...
Until then, speculations are just speculation...

But then again, I might have to side with Heretic...if it truly IS the arcade game we're predicting, this could be the end of FS development... :(
 
amahran said:
There are only two ways to find out...
Either wait for the rest of the world to show up in the screenshots or videos...or wait until it comes out onto the markets...
Until then, speculations are just speculation...

But then again, I might have to side with Heretic...if it truly IS the arcade game we're predicting, this could be the end of FS development... :(
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From the FAQ page/a news release:

  • "Microsoft Flight builds off its heritage of deep, immersive simulation"

  • "The new “Microsoft Flight” retains the full fidelity simulation longtime fans have come to expect"

  • "We don’t need to create an arcade game to welcome a wider audience."
 
Hughes-MDflyer4 said:
That's not the only place they've mentioned world...

http://www.microsoft.com/games/flight/#news-flight-missions

"Of course, players can always choose to fly freely without guidance in order to simply enjoy the beauty of the world, fiddle with the knobs and switches in the cockpit, or put an aircraft through its paces. Each of these experiences is different and enriches the game overall, providing short-term and longer-term gameplay."

Sounds like a world simulator to me.
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"World", in game development, almost never equals "planet".

WoW and any other role playing or open world game always have a line like "an immersive, populated world" in their advertisements.
But very little, if any of them care to model a whole planet and instead only offer one or more continents or areas of varying size.

The "Gaming" section of the disambiguation page for the term "world" on Wikipedia leads to this article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_(computer_and_video_games)

In the terminology table, there's this:
World A series of levels all revolving or subsisting on the same theme, elements or concepts. Worlds allow a designer to propagate specific gameplay themes across several levels without having to create a level that is too large and unwieldy. For example, several levels containing lava and flame hazards that are all part of a "fire world".
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With that in mind, Flight!'s hawaiian island chain fully qualifies as a (game) "world", albeit constituting only a very small part of the actual planet it is located on.



amahran said:
But then again, I might have to side with Heretic...if it truly IS the arcade game we're predicting, this could be the end of FS development... :(
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I've never said it's going to be arcarde.
 
I give up. No more observations on Flight from me until it hits my HD - beta or retail. Enjoy your speculations, gentlemen, I'm outta this topic. :tongue-ti
 
The Sky is falling! The Sky is falling!

:D

Dont panic you guys... I think the biggest enthusiasts of FS are the guys that make it. I am sure they know what they are doing. Pray for them that they get what all they need to make this the best, most awesome sim yet.
 
Father God,

We pray that you would bless the people that are making Flight Simulator, that you would bless them with all they need to make this their best work yet. We pray that you will protect them from bad influences, protect them from mistakes, keep them on the right track.

In the name of your Son, Jesus Christ, we humbly pray, Amen.
 
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