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MSFS Correct livery with AI traffic (real-time online ) with a320neo

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Hi guys. i made a discovery just a minute ago. So if you find a320neo flight in the sim (real-time online), it uses 320neo liverys from the community folder and it is 100% right. Look this pic with TAP 320neo flight coming to Orly: https://i.ibb.co/M7xFCp9/20210218151500-1.jpg

Problem is, that there isnt so many a320neo´s in the sky worldwide: https://flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/A20N

There is also problem with flightaware, it doesent identify all the 320neo´s and some of them is normal a320 on the site.

I did try to config fs10.AircraftTypes.csv, i delete all the aicrafts except a320neo. But there is only generic blue a320neo liviries around.

So what to do? Can we somehow inject flightawares data to think, that all the traffic worldwide is made by 320neo aircrafts. That way there would be 100% correct liverys all around the world, but only a320neo aircrafts. Or is there way to inject more aircrafts to AI traffic and make AI friendly liviries for them? Or is it only Asobos models that is AI traffic combatible?
 
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Hey, it's possible to set up more models, even legacy ones. I tested that using a Dash 8 Q400 and the legacy 737-800 in some freighter paint scheme:


The progress to enable a plane is pretty straight forward, all information about airline and aircraft have to be in aircraft.cfg. For example the Dash 8 has the following relevant entries in the FLTSIM XX section I want to see as ai traffic:

atc_airline = Horizon Air ; airline name
icao_airline = "QXE" ; ICAO code of the airline if the variation is a livery for a real airline
atc_parking_types = GATE,RAMP ; "ANY" / "RAMP" / "CARGO" / "MIL_CARGO" / "MIL_COMBAT" / "GATE" / "DOCK"
atc_parking_codes = ASAX,QXE ; Comma separated and may be as small as one character each
isairtraffic = 1 ; airtraffic flag for variations

Also you need to provide additional icao information in the [GENERAL] section of the plane so it will be set as the proper replacement for the one flying around irl:

icao_type_designator = "DH8D" ;
icao_manufacturer = "DE HAVILLAND CANADA" ;
icao_model = "Dash 8-400" ;
icao_engine_type = "Turboprop/Turboshaft" ;
icao_engine_count = 2 ;
icao_wtc = "L" ;

You can get the needed information directly from ICAO: https://www.icao.int/publications/doc8643/pages/search.aspx

If everything went right you gonna see the plane fly around. Still there is some limitation/bug around: it seems like you can only use 3 liveries per plane for ai properly - if you define more the paints will be randomized somehow.

Good luck!
 
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After several weeks of tests and various attempts to try to understand how AI traffic works in FS2020 I managed to get some good results.
Here are some pictures taken from different airports
 

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This looks amazing. Cant wait for someone to fully crack this and give us something similar to Ultimate traffic.
 
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After several weeks of tests and various attempts to try to understand how AI traffic works in FS2020 I managed to get some good results.
Here are some pictures taken from different airports
Grigna, do you mind sharing how you got the above results?
 
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Grigna, do you mind sharing how you got the above results?
I'd gladly do it, but it's not that simple.
This is the result of at least two months of observation and modifications to the configurations with tests and counter-tests that unfortunately require the simulator to be restarted every time with the waiting time that we all know.
What I can say is that the engine that handles live AI traffic works quite well although many users claim otherwise.
Surely, another thing to say is that the ways to make it work correctly are not adequately documented such as the aircraft.cfg file which still today is not known what values are actually used and it is not even clear if these values should be expressed with quotes or without. Even today in the SDK there are examples of aircraft.cfg with values expressed in quotation marks, others without. (I am referring to strings)
Another thing to say is that there are essentially three types of traffic:
1) Aircraft parked
2) Offline AI traffic
3) Online AI traffic
These are three different things that ultimately affect each other
I focused on AI Online traffic because that's what interests me.
There are many things to do but above all there are many things not to do such as filling the Community with AI models found around and thrown in there without any control over the configuration files, on the BMP textures instead of DDS, on the old MDL or AIR files.
The topics are many and I could write almost a book. ;)
 
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Even today in the SDK there are examples of aircraft.cfg with values expressed in quotation marks, others without. (I am referring to strings)

Quotes are necessary if there's multiple words/numbers in the string, like if you want a plane to use multiple types of parking. But if it's just a single word/number you don't really need quotes.

Live traffic uses the AI system, so things that work with that will also effect Live Traffic. But the most important things are the ICAO lines.
 
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