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splash screen starts..... a few seconds later msg= fatal error program must close. or check on line for solution.

3 or 4 times in a row. sometimes check on line.... progress bar.... try again and it works. figured is was one of the sceneries I was working on. took it out. all worked well.... for a while. corrected a few one or two things.... FSX loaded fine. a few hours later .... error msg all over again. repeat the above to get FSX top run again.

Redid FSX.cfg no change. Bob
 
Find out which of the sceneries is causing the error, then which file in that scenery and contact the author or correct the error.
 
Did all that already. seemed to work at first then back to same old, same old.
Win 7. I did the scenery and it was fine for weeks and weeks and weeks. I wonder if recent Windows updates can do this?
 
Uninstall FSX. Reinstall FSX. Add addons one at a time and test FSX after each addon. Eventually you'll find the problem.

Dick
 
So you updated to Windows 7 and I am guessing your sim is in C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games, am I correct? If that is indeed the case, the preferred solution is to re-install FSX in a directory outside Program Files. There is no other known cure for the virus known as Microsoft Data Execution Prevention (DEP). The fix is easily performed by renaming your current installation to protect the integrity of your current build and then deleting the record of the installation using the programs and features control panel, then install FSX to C:\Microsoft Flight Simulator X and copy your renamed original build to the new C drive folder; done.
 
True to all of the above. I have had FSX for years with no problems. I am suspecting my Cadiz scenery... which I made and have had for weeks on end. Deleted each file one by one.... no change. I suspect the afcad file. Robby and I were looking at this.
We just noticed this morning that my float plane... actually tried two different ones... same effect..................... in slew mode they both sit above the water a few feet. Off slew mode they settle down into the water properly.

I thought is was contact points but both ac's did this. Ergo.... something wrong with my afcad. I see no flattens in the area on my files. My afcad shows 0 alt, btw. pattern alt is 0 also. Water rwy.
 
Totally makes sense but if the answer was: "yes, FSX is in C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games," then besides all the afcad's and contact points, you will have to delete or disable all the executable data in order to get FSX to run. Another alternative is to reinstall FSX outside C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games.

You should stop suspecting your Cadiz scenery and all my models jump 2' when I enter slew. However I had your problem and I corrected it by applying the solution I described in detail above.
 
For the sake of argument, I will disagree:).
Me too, I run W7 and have my FSX in C:\windows\Program Files (86)\Microsoft games, etc.
Bob was kind enough to send me his files and I do not have any problems. The aircraft sits on the water and no CTD's or whatever.
I must therefore conclude that there is another file active that makes the aircraft sit on a flatten of another scenery that I do not have and so does not interfere with this one.
Cadiz.jpg
 
Then I need to find out what that file may be. Right now I have Cadiz disabled. So far.... FSX is behaving itself. Ergo- Cadiz and some other file are "fighting". Reactivate Cadiz and find the other file and deactivate THAT one and FSX should also behave. right?

Roby- Is this plane in the picture on slew mode right now?
 
Bob I am not disputing your situation with the Cadiz scenery, but I would like to understand Roby's FSX install path, because in my understanding this does not work. I can say that in all my years of playing with sceneries that i've never encountered a situation where files are mutually exclusive.
For the sake of argument, I will disagree:).
Me too, I run W7 and have my FSX in C:\windows\Program Files (86)\Microsoft games, etc.
Bob was kind enough to send me his files and I do not have any problems. The aircraft sits on the water and no CTD's or whatever.
I must therefore conclude that there is another file active that makes the aircraft sit on a flatten of another scenery that I do not have and so does not interfere with this one.View attachment 29213

Totally understood, except for whatever part we or I am misunderstanding, but I am game to explore the anomaly. First off, I know that there is no known cure for Windows DEP besides circumventing it. The easiest and most direct way that I know of is to move the files and execute data outside it's area of focus. It can be an intermittent problem because events within the simulator trigger DEP, to my understanding. You can specifically allow FSX but when a .dll performs a task, you are not given the opportunity to allow it so the procedure fails and FSX crashes. It would seem that if FSX is being run from within C:\windows\Program Files (86)\Microsoft games, you have done something else to circumvent DEP and that it would be something you would remember. Perhaps you have a hacked version of W7? I'm not making any sort of accusation and I totally trust your understanding and expertise in these matters, however the sheer volume of hits in my Google search should substantiate this is no small matter. So great a matter actually, that in the absence of any errant flattens or afcads and whatever you did to make it work Roby, the proposed fix is about as easy as a continued search and the biggest harm is that it would disrupt the install/activation path of any payware, which could also be corrected.

Ok as to slew levitation. I just ran a test and I was mistaken in my assertion, only the avatar model I use levitates in slew mode all the time. However I observed a very peculiar situation with the P3D default F35 that may provide clues to your situation. I think the issue is the aircraft air or model file and I'll show you why, first the avatar in external and in slew mode to demonstrate:
slew5.jpg

slew6.jpg


See what I mean? It happens all the time everywhere and I use it to place scenery. I think also some of my own creation models do the same thing but it is not something I am asserting or checking. Now onto the F35. The default start external view is not exactly identical to the slew view, in that you can see more of the center line above the cockpit. What is very noticeable is the view immediately upon exiting slew mode, the nose noticeably dips then rises to rest almost as if a weight got deposited in the cockpit, hidden vents become exposed and much more of the center line is visible than in the other images. This is something anyone can confirm. First default start, then slew and then the first instant after exiting slew:
slew1.jpg

slew2.jpg

slew3.jpg

I also tried the experiment in a freeware helicopter I use and the result was similar to the F35 but less dramatic. Overall I would conclude that it is the "pilot" that becomes levitated, probably by becoming weightless, but that is just a guess. Therefore there is something about the situation you encounter where it causes the airplane to be weightless itself or be levitated by the act of the pilot becoming levitated.
 
I just checked some of this out. I have a float plane that levitates 3 feet or so ... off slew ... back down it goes. Then I tried a default float plane... did the same but ever so slightly. Ergo- difference in contact points I would guess.

So far today FSX has behaved well.... no error msgs. This is with Cadiz disabled. I would send it to rk if we had a drop box shared. or e-mail and then I could send the link to get it. Meanwhile I have been checking for other recent sceneries I have fiddled with, hoping to find same or very close lat and long numbers but no luck so far. If this were the case,however, I would see another airfield plopped right down on top of Cadiz. Such is not the case.
Never seen something like this? If there is a screw-up not yet found.... I'll find it! ... and make it! hahahaha!
Bob
 
Bob, The closest oddity I encountered was with an effects file from a payware scenery. FSX would not boot and the error message was .000000001 is greater than .00000000009 or something. I think it was 9Dragons FS9 Kai Tak that I had tried to run in FSX. Drove me crazy, nothing on the web at the time and I finally found it by process of elimination. You know; disable the new scenery, test, well that doesn't work, wtf. Maybe it's something else, disable all non default aircraft, nothing... disable everything recently modified, nothing...disable sound, nothing....disable effects, huh, it boots...
I'd like to look at your Cadiz, great windsurfing destination, but I'm only using P3D these days and my FSX install is so gutted I doubt it will run. It's been a year or so, but you're still on my Skype so we could link there, I'm aardque (rdk). Also of particular note is that the scenery seems to work as expected for Roby and if you're the only one it doesn't work for, then the upside is that you got your contribution out there. Kidding aside, here is my point about Cadiz and W7 DEP, I'm not making a pitch because I'm waiting to hear Roby's ideas on what I'd written - but, to properly test Cadiz you would need to eliminate everything else first, sequentially like I did to find the bogus effect, but you'd have to nail down every variable between your's and Roby's systems as if with a fresh install and once you'd gone that far, moving FSX out of program files would be an extra click or two, imo.
 
Morning (over here),

- First, let me correct something: my FSX path is C:\Program files (86)\Microsoft Games\... and not in C:\windows\...(so sorry).
- Then, to reply to Bob, no I am not in slew mode in the screenshot. It imitates you going up and down in the water.
- And, Rick, I agree that reinstalling FSX (and in another place) can be a solution but only as a last resort. For the time being I would concentrate on finding out whether it is a rogue scenery that is the culprit or something else.
- When Bob tried the Grumman Goose, it also floated in the air.
- The Cádiz scenery should also work in P3D.
- As for the F35 "levitation" it must be in the contact points (In slew mode the aircraft is weightless and therefore the wheel gear will not be compressed. Maybe check static compression and damping ratio). Dipping when coming out of slew mode depends on the COG of the aircraft, I suppose.
- I do not think that it is necessary to go over all the variables between the two systems as Bob's problem cropped up only very recently.
- Do not reload from a saved flight. Delete the saved flight and start from free flight.
 
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rk- solved it. Your post has some damned good ideas. but I found the culprit. I found some flattens out ni the ocean ostensibly close to my Cadiz area. disabled all sceneries except defaults. Still had the problem. then I noticed.... an active folder wit ha number of fattens in it. Disabled THAT one and bingo... all was well. Next re-enabled all other sceneries except some old one I don't really use anymore... and still.... all was OK. (This is with Cadiz reactivated).

So- Thank you and Robi for all your help. May you both get a raise, a pizza, a 6 pack, and a trip to Tahiti in your own yacht. bob
 
- I do not think that it is necessary to go over all the variables between the two systems as Bob's problem cropped up only very recently.
The variables would have been the flattens that Bob found that you lacked. The problem appeared when Cadiz activated but existed since the flattens were added in antiquity. Cadiz would always work for you Roby and never work for Bob. He got lucky and found the culprit on a relatively simple level of elimination. The problem could have been anywhere in the FSX install, some addon associated .dll in FSX root, or something in the modules folder, to the point a reinstall might have appeared more attractive despite DEP.

Congratulations on your success. I still want to see Cadiz although I doubt you modeled the hotties. I'd be in much more of a quandary about the DEP if you hadn't waited so long Bob. Active folder of flattens...airport flattens for a global mesh..?

There was a flurry of help me posts when DEP first reared it's head, I was one of them and I had become convinced that a) everyone exposed to DEP got bit by it and b) that migrating FSX or P3D was the only solution to recommend. I'd like to nail it down because even though the tide has turned, so to speak, There is still the occasional W10 user who seems to be suffering from DEP after installing the sim.
 
All true enough, Rick. But reinstalling is not that easy (for me at least). That is why I urged Bob to check on the add on sceneries first without going through the effort of reinstalling FSX, SP1, SP2 and the SDK's.
Anyway, I guess he is now bobbing up and down in the port of Cádiz.
What is DEP?
 
DEP
I want Data Execution Prevention to stop stopping Flight Simulator X

I have a problem I am sure its an easy fix but I can't figure it out. I've tried and tried to get Data Prevention System to stop shutting my Flight Simulator X game. It works fine until about 5-10 minutes into the flight it shuts it down. I have followed the instructions to turn Data Execution Prevention off but it says it needs it. I don't know if i just need to run it in a different way or what. All I know is the thing keep shutting down the game. I tried to turn it off but didn't work. I played as amdministrator and the same thing happened. I just need instructions on how to make this stop. I have almost gave up.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...stopping/e3cf0178-a145-4fcd-8d19-1da6d238305b
 
I'd have to read up on the DEP thing. Funny though, Cadiz was there for a few weeks WITH these flattens before they started 'fighting' with each other, Odd! Oh well.

What are the 'Hotties'? My friend and I just did Cadiz Bay and maybe a couple of others in a few other areas, close by maybe. My photoreal turned out very nice. but I don't think I want to model every one of those red-roofed houses!!! I'd send it if I had your e-mail. Not done with it yet... I think. I put in two different docks for my friend to choose between. Still waiting for him to get un-busy with other stuff. Bob
 
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