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FS2004 Identifying specific ground textures

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Since installing FScene (which I'm mostly very pleased with) I've noticed there's a specific ground texture that turns up occasionally which appears to depict several gliders (or similar) in a field (in Europe).
Whilst, in "normal" circumstances, this isn't an issue, I find having these appear adjacent to an actual airfield to be a little distracting.
Will one of the multitude of comprehensive utilities that are available allow me to identify which specific texture file is under my aircraft, so's I can dig it out from the Scenery\World\Texture folder and edit it to suit?
I appreciate I could simply open them one at a time for inspection, but with over 4,000 .bmp files there I was hoping to take a short-cut!

The attached view at N48 58 19.9 E017 08 05.63 demonstrates the issue.
 

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Hi Chris:

If FScene is a form of substitute custom photo-real imagery textures, there may be a way to read the texture name with a non-SDK utility.


IIRC, the default and custom series of tile names used are (2) distinct -but related alphanumeric types as land class.


AFAIK, rhumbaflappy's TCalc and George Davison's IDTile may ID the tile name when the user aircraft is over the coordinates.

Assuming you ID a land class tile file name for custom content, you could search for that file and substitute it further.

Or you can cover it up with a LOD-13 size new textured polygon made in either of a few legacy FS scenery utilities such as SBuilder for FS9.


I'll take a look at this later on my FS9 computer to refresh my memory on this, and will follow-up.

GaryGB
 
GaryGB said:
I'll take a look at this later on my FS9 computer to refresh my memory on this, and will follow-up.

GaryGB
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Thanks for taking an interest :)
Whilst I was fiddling with SBuilder for another little scenery I'm setting up, by sheer chance I stumbled upon the specific texture I was hoping to find, so I've edited it to suit and solved my problem :)
Specifically, the file in question is 005A2SU3.bmp, so there'll be spring, "fall" and winter textures as well if I want to do a "proper job", but I've got what I want for the time being :)
I had considered generating "over-write" polygons with SBuilder, as and when I found the problem, but making a global fix like this means it only needed to be done once.
I remember using TCalc many years ago for some obscure ground texturing issue, I'll have to dig it out and re-familiarise myself with it.
IDTile is not a utility I'm familiar with, I'll look around for a copy.

Thanks again :)
 
hgschnell said:
Did you ever try LWMViewer 2.0?

Guenther
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I did ... but it re-wrote my scenery.cfg and left me with a mess that took some while to rectify!
I recognise that it is very much an incompleted "beta", so I didn't make a fuss about it.
Fortunately I do take regular backups so nothing was lost that couldn't be recovered.
Nevertheless, using it just as a "viewer", if it is capable of identifying which texture is in use, I haven't been able to figure out how to do it.
 
hgschnell said:
So it is a bad example, but it works at other "non-photo" areas too
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Yes, but it doesn't tell me which texture is being used, just what the photo texture would be if there was one there!
See the below screenshot where LViewer2 refers to a non-existent 011232030030230Su.bmp
 

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Hi again:

I am not certain I ever saw a FS8 / FS9 utility that reported the custom photo-real Land Class series tile names within the sim at run time.

The ones I have seen, do report the default Land Class series tile / texture names.


It is possible there may be a reference somewhere that provides a crosswalk table or spreadsheet, but I do not recall seeing one.

Luis Feliz-Tirado provided a crosswalk table as a spreadsheet that documented what Land Class results from use of MaskClassMap vectors.

But that is different from what Chris seeks; I wonder if Holger Sandmann ever wrote a crosswalk table or spreadsheet that addresses this. :scratchch

GaryGB
 
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GaryGB said:
Hi again:

I am not certain I ever saw a FS9 / FS9 utility that reported the custom photo-real Land Class series tile names within the sim at run time.

The ones I have seen, do report the default Land Class series tile / texture names.


It is possible there may be a reference somewhere that provides a crosswalk table or spreadsheet, but I do not recall seeing one.

Luis Feliz-Tirado provided a crosswalk table as a spreadsheet that documented what Land Class results from use of MaskClassMap vectors.

But that is different from what Chris seeks; I wonder if Holger Sandmann ever wrote a crosswalk table or spreadsheet that addresses this. :scratchch

GaryGB
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Appreciate all the thought going into this, but I'm anticipating this was a one-off rather than an ongoing requirement, and as I got lucky and found what I was looking for by accident I think we can put the subject to bed.
I'm not totally 'au fait' with the ins-and-outs of landclass and such, much less with the basic structure of FS2004 scenery, but it would seem that the author(s) of FScene did a very comprehensive job updating and replacing much of the default background scenery in FS2004, rather than overlaying it, thereby minimising any overheads, whilst giving the appearance of a much more detailed environment.

Thanks again one and all :)
 
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