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Makemdl switching 2004 to 2002 in GMAX
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Hi,
It is possible, but to make it work as intended you need some file (acording to information somewhere at this forum) from the 2002 Pro CD. As I have never owned 2002, pro or otherwise, I got the idea to use a x-file as an intermediary. To use this method you need the 2002 "makemdl.exe" from MS and the utility "mdlcommander" (AvSim). (Save the makemdl.exe under a different name to make sure that gmax makes no mistake when exporting in the normal way through the 2004-makemdl).
Following the instruction in the mdlcommander readme you export the groundpoly as an x-file. And then you re-export it with 2002-makemdl (as a stand-alone app., just click on it), entering the co-ordinates for placement (that's how the 2002 works).
Peter
It is possible, but to make it work as intended you need some file (acording to information somewhere at this forum) from the 2002 Pro CD. As I have never owned 2002, pro or otherwise, I got the idea to use a x-file as an intermediary. To use this method you need the 2002 "makemdl.exe" from MS and the utility "mdlcommander" (AvSim). (Save the makemdl.exe under a different name to make sure that gmax makes no mistake when exporting in the normal way through the 2004-makemdl).
Following the instruction in the mdlcommander readme you export the groundpoly as an x-file. And then you re-export it with 2002-makemdl (as a stand-alone app., just click on it), entering the co-ordinates for placement (that's how the 2002 works).
Peter
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Mdlcommander available here:
http://hometown.aol.de/_ht_a/docmoriarty3/fs2002/en/mdlcommander_dl.html
http://hometown.aol.de/_ht_a/docmoriarty3/fs2002/en/mdlcommander_dl.html
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Hi,
Mdlcommander should be in "..\gmax\gamepacks\fs2004\plugins". And you should rename it and the original "makemdl.exe" and "makemdl.parts.xml" as per instruction in the readme. You make a small file called "[your project].par" as per instruction in the readme and put it in the folder where your exported files land. When you export you choose "keep files". You then end up with an .x-file of your project.
The 2002-makemdl may be anywhere (I put it in ""..\gmax\gamepacks\fs2004" but have it renamed so not to confuse gmax). When I use it I click on it and browse to the .x-file. It then works like the 2004-makemdl but your must fill in the coordinates.
Peter
Mdlcommander should be in "..\gmax\gamepacks\fs2004\plugins". And you should rename it and the original "makemdl.exe" and "makemdl.parts.xml" as per instruction in the readme. You make a small file called "[your project].par" as per instruction in the readme and put it in the folder where your exported files land. When you export you choose "keep files". You then end up with an .x-file of your project.
The 2002-makemdl may be anywhere (I put it in ""..\gmax\gamepacks\fs2004" but have it renamed so not to confuse gmax). When I use it I click on it and browse to the .x-file. It then works like the 2004-makemdl but your must fill in the coordinates.
Peter
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Hi Jouvarn,
Take a look at this extensive tutorial to make sure that your installation is ok.
http://www.sk-flightsim.com/tutorials/gmax_installation.html. Make sure that it works in the normal, intended way, before trying the mdlcommander installation.
Peter
Take a look at this extensive tutorial to make sure that your installation is ok.
http://www.sk-flightsim.com/tutorials/gmax_installation.html. Make sure that it works in the normal, intended way, before trying the mdlcommander installation.
Peter
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Hi Jouvarn,
MdlCommander should not (in my setup) be involved with the 2002 makemdl. You start out with a normal 2004 gamepack setup, change it to involve MdlCommander, and export as an .x-file.
Given the .x-file you simply use the 2002-makemdl.ex as a stand alone application to open that file.
Btw: My experience shows me that if you have both makemdl.exe's installed in my way, gmax may be confused and be unable to indentify the proper one (that is the 2004 makemdl.exe). This may result in the error message that you reported. That is reason I suggest the renaming of the 2002 makemdl. I call it makemdl02.exe, but you may choose whatever you like. As said, it is used as a stand alone app.
(And please remember that what I suggest is a work-around. If you can lay your hand on the 2002 pro CD, you should install the 2002 gamepack in the normal way, and then the 2004 one as per instruction to make the two work together in the official way).
Peter
MdlCommander should not (in my setup) be involved with the 2002 makemdl. You start out with a normal 2004 gamepack setup, change it to involve MdlCommander, and export as an .x-file.
Given the .x-file you simply use the 2002-makemdl.ex as a stand alone application to open that file.
Btw: My experience shows me that if you have both makemdl.exe's installed in my way, gmax may be confused and be unable to indentify the proper one (that is the 2004 makemdl.exe). This may result in the error message that you reported. That is reason I suggest the renaming of the 2002 makemdl. I call it makemdl02.exe, but you may choose whatever you like. As said, it is used as a stand alone app.
(And please remember that what I suggest is a work-around. If you can lay your hand on the 2002 pro CD, you should install the 2002 gamepack in the normal way, and then the 2004 one as per instruction to make the two work together in the official way).
Peter
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You don't need MDLCommander. The instructions on how to use both gamepacks together come with the Fs2004 SDK. It is a nice little texture document (I think it is in the gamepacks\fs2004 folder by default or so).
Basically what you have to do is to create a gamepacks\fs2002 folder as well and copy a few files and folders in there. After that you create an additional shortcut. Then you have a shortcut for Fs2002 and one for Fs2004.
Basically what you have to do is to create a gamepacks\fs2002 folder as well and copy a few files and folders in there. After that you create an additional shortcut. Then you have a shortcut for Fs2002 and one for Fs2004.
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Hi Arno and Jouvarn,
Just to make clear that my contribution to this thread (the work-around using MdlCommander to produce an x-file) was based on the assumption that the original poster (Jourvarn) did not possess FS 2002 (Pro) and therefore had no legal access to the 2002-"FSModelExp.dle", which in another thread was stated as needed to make the 2002 gamepack work. This was based on the wording: switch from 2004 to 2002.
If I am wrong, please disregard my posts.
Peter
Just to make clear that my contribution to this thread (the work-around using MdlCommander to produce an x-file) was based on the assumption that the original poster (Jourvarn) did not possess FS 2002 (Pro) and therefore had no legal access to the 2002-"FSModelExp.dle", which in another thread was stated as needed to make the 2002 gamepack work. This was based on the wording: switch from 2004 to 2002.
If I am wrong, please disregard my posts.
Peter
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Hi Peter,
Thanks for the clarification. As it was a rather long discussion I did not read all in great detail, so I might have missed that point. If you don't have access to Fs2002 Pro, I guess you are right (I never tried that myself). I am not even sure if the procedures described by MS work in that case.
Thanks for the clarification. As it was a rather long discussion I did not read all in great detail, so I might have missed that point. If you don't have access to Fs2002 Pro, I guess you are right (I never tried that myself). I am not even sure if the procedures described by MS work in that case.
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Hi, guys!
Yesterday, I've created some program, which gives you ability to switch between two gamepacks (2002 and 2004) automatically!
It's name "MakeMDL switch".
I hope, it will help you with the problems of swithcing between two gamepacks.
You can download it at my site: http://kievscenery.narod.ru/download.html
Instructions are on Russian, but the menu of program is on English. Also, it has an easy interface...
Just copy all files from zip-archive, launch the Patch.
After patching, launch the program. When you've saved some settings in the program, you can close it and start your Gmax.
Good luck!
Yesterday, I've created some program, which gives you ability to switch between two gamepacks (2002 and 2004) automatically!
It's name "MakeMDL switch".
I hope, it will help you with the problems of swithcing between two gamepacks.
You can download it at my site: http://kievscenery.narod.ru/download.html
Instructions are on Russian, but the menu of program is on English. Also, it has an easy interface...
Just copy all files from zip-archive, launch the Patch.
After patching, launch the program. When you've saved some settings in the program, you can close it and start your Gmax.
Good luck!
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Yesterday, I've created some program, which gives you ability to switch between two gamepacks (2002 and 2004) automatically!
It's name "MakeMDL switch".
I hope, it will help you with the problems of swithcing between two gamepacks.
You can download it at my site: http://kievscenery.narod.ru/download.html
Instructions are on Russian, but the menu of program is on English. Also, it has an easy interface...
Just copy all files from zip-archive, launch the Patch.
After patching, launch the program. When you've saved some settings in the program, you can close it and start your Gmax.
I hope you are aware that you are redistributing some files that can normally only be found on the FS2002 Pro Disk. Although FS2002 is quite old by now, I doubt that is legal.