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Malware alert - hidden inside Flightsimlabs A320X addon

So much to do going on for not so much of a much, IMHO.

The major takeaway from this tale is that it was discovered and screamed to the heavens by a P I R A T E who suddenly can't use his stolen aircraft...
 
Thanks Heretic for adding the link to the explanation behind it (I did not have found that article myself yet)

The major takeaway from this tale is that it was discovered and screamed to the heavens by a P I R A T E who suddenly can't use his stolen aircraft.
That might or might not be the case Bill, but it also raises a number of questions what kind of data "installers" really gather and "beam back to the mothership" (for what ever reason).

To be clear:
I'm 100% behind the manufacturers-side. Those hardworking woman/men who simply want to technically protect their investment and products against software piracy.

Having said this:
A - On a smartphone-platform any (decently designed and written) App is at least required to ask access to certain types of data installed on it.
B - On a PC, Laptop of Netwbook computer - due to the totally rotten "security design" of the Windows operating systsem - once an (installer) .exe has been fired up with the admin privileges
in order to install all software where it needs to be installed, the exe-file is technically able to suck all every bit of data from your hard-disk (and most connected) device and beam it up into somebody elses cloud.

Q: shouldn't software manufacturers be absolutely 100% transparent about the way they are doing it?
This FlightSimLabs case clearly has brought more to the surface that most of us already know about "DRM" and "INSTALLERS".
 
Personally, I don't get it. People who pirate don't buy software, bottom line. It doesn't matter how badass your new jet is or how laser tech, MAC address encrypted your installers are. To a pirate, software is either freely available, like all the other bajillion bits of stolen software, or somebody is probably going to crack it. It is straight up myopic and self aggrandizing to think you'll ever get a pirate to actually pony up and sponsor their entertainment. Statements like this are absurd and humorous; "one can clearly see how extensive the damage to all our favorite add-on providers is," hello, doof: they were never going to buy in the first place. None of them. All I see are a bunch of names. Forgive me, but my thought is, "wow, if the pirates really like 'x' title, maybe I should go out and buy it to see what all the hype is." Is that bad?
People that buy software don't pirate either. I'm not referring to using your ex's Netflix account, I am referring to the act of providing basic biometrics in order to gain access to secure sites. Pirate sites are low life, keylogger riddled, rootkit injecting, watched by authorities, unhealthy places to frequent and they certainly don't help your favorite developers develop more stuff. That is another thing that made me laugh, how he couldn't get access. What, did he try with his actual name or something? In my experience, pirates are smart but insecure, computer nerds that really want affirmation more than anything. They upload other peoples' works in the hopes of filling that empty hole in their soul and they heartily welcome co conspirators. His inability to join the forums means he didn't try hard enough. The small upside (meaning, gosh if you ignore them, it might not be all bad) is that enough pirates get to saying good stuffs about your softwares on the forums, in might actually generate legitimate sales.

The takeaway for me is that instead of developing software products for his new customers, he squanders his resources on a witch hunt; stand aside Interpol. Then there is the whole thing about using my computer to wage his personal war and yes, I am concerned about a misdirected volley. Here is why I get so lit. The bottom, bottom line, is that it's really none of our business. Ya no, it's true. I got ripped off on ebay the other day, some dude had a compromised account and I guess it's my fault because I bid $150 on a $400 video card and they cancelled the whole thing and ebay's buyer protection can't help me because PayPal stepped in and they aren't saying chit. Jeez, should I maybe hack ebays database to find this guy? Ask the community to download my little data mining packet so we can filter IP addresses and zero in on the guy? No, none of that, sounds pretty absurd, agreed? The theft will be handled in due course by the proper authorities and I might even get my money back while it still has some of it's original value - as should happen with this guy's situation - but, no, he did something that made him issue an apology letter and THAT is what I will remember him for. One might ask oneself, "self, was it worth it?"

The work we do is like a rock concert. I know, you see a 737, or Dusseldorf airport and you think, no, that is a thing. It may be virtual, but it is as real and solid as Watson and Amazon. But it's not. In a few weeks or months, someone will publish a new 737, one where the inlet strakes align with the tangential cross flow the way they do in real life and for a time, this upstart will be the definitive 737. Perhaps so definitive that one day they will give it it's own display in the Louvre. Not likely, but one can hope.

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Ultimately however, software, whatever it is, hits the billboard charts, remains popular for as long as it can to be eventually replaced. It is the way of the world.

How do musicians deal with piracy? They support the DMCA, the relevant authorities and belt out more hits. Then there are the members of the band Metallica, going around door-to-door, confiscating bootlegged CD's - not! I actually see very few examples of performers openly bemoaning or beseeching piracy. How can they, when they drive around in jalopies worth more than my entire town.
So what's the answer? Develop. And buy the products you love. Support the community, support fair exchange and please, let's get our collective noses out of the gutter.
 
Bill: while I appreciate your reply to the initial post, Lefteris has broken a large number of national and international laws and has admitted to it. Legally, what he did was plain wrong and the fallout from that is going to be interesting. He might get away with it, he might not.

If you recall, around twenty years ago I was pirated by one of the world's biggest software companies who put out my freely-available work as their own with no attribution. Apart from the helpless frustration and anger, my final reaction was surprising; I dumped every piece of pirated software that was on my PC and it's stayed squeaky clean ever since. It wasn't nice being on the receiving end. So, morally, I understand exactly why he did it but two illegal wrongs don't make a legal right.
 
I experienced a similar situation, on a more modest scale. A developer offered partnership for populating his extensive photo derived sceneries with model objects. Upon the very first discussion of compensation, he locked me out of his server where my work was stored. That was a fundamental "no no" for me. He might have been better off to allow me to delete, or whatever he thought I might have done, because he might have salvaged some sort of an agreement. Instead, it marked the end of the negotiation for me, as I refuse to conduct business with that type of mentality. Those airports became my first uploads to Avsim, which happened immediately upon confirmation that the changed password was not some sort of mistake. I met him here, he's probably reading this now.
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Personally, I don't get it. People who pirate don't buy software, bottom line.

From what I can tell, it wasn't so much a strike at the pirates who download it, but more those who buy, crack, and upload the software.
 
Bill: while I appreciate your reply to the initial post, Lefteris has broken a large number of national and international laws and has admitted to it. Legally, what he did was plain wrong and the fallout from that is going to be interesting. He might get away with it, he might not.
Dai, I attempted to reply earlier today, but for some reason the forum suddenly became inaccessible when I tried to Post... o_O

I agree that Lefteris has possibly violated Greek laws, to say nothing about EU and International laws. I make no defense for him or FS Labs in that regard. I just happen to believe that far more is being made of this than what there is in actuality, and do not agree with making this into a witch hunt.

In any event, armchair lawyering and finger-wagging is useless. Any investigation and possible litigation is best left to the appropriate authorities. We should all acknowledge that rampant speculation and hysteria can permanently damage a person's reputation and livelihood unfairly. Everyone deserves an opportunity to defend themselves against any accusers in a proper venue. Crucifixion in absentia is counter-productive in these situations.

OTOH, that nation has had a history of "Trojan Horses" and the well-known aphorism of "beware Greeks bearing gifts..." :rotfl:
 
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OTOH, that nation has had a history of "Trojan Horses" and the well-known aphorism of "beware Greeks bearing gifts..." :rotfl:

Maybe it's time to overhaul the old saying for 21st century use: "Carrying keyloggers to Athens".

Or who could forget the evergreen Schlager "White keyloggers from Athens"*.


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("White roses from Athens". Native German speakers will know this one.) Brb, cleaning out my ears.
 
Maybe it's time to overhaul the old saying for 21st century use: "Carrying keyloggers to Athens".

Or who could forget the evergreen Schlager "White keyloggers from Athens"*.


*
("White roses from Athens". Native German speakers will know this one.) Brb, cleaning out my ears.
I don't know what she is singing about but put a lyric about a pickup truck in the song and she would do great in Nashville! :rotfl:
 
In any event, armchair lawyering and finger-wagging is useless. Any investigation and possible litigation is best left to the appropriate authorities. We should all acknowledge that rampant speculation and hysteria can permanently damage a person's reputation and livelihood unfairly. Everyone deserves an opportunity to defend themselves against any accusers in a proper venue. Crucifixion in absentia is counter-productive in these situations.
I completely agree Bill, which is why I refrained from posting any personal opinion on the matter. So far as the UK is concerned, if anyone here has downloaded and installed that piece of malware then Lefteris has violated the Computer Misuse Act; I have no idea which European laws or Greek laws he has violated or even if he can/should be prosecuted in the UK and I refuse to become an armchair lawyer :stirthepo
 
I completely agree Bill, which is why I refrained from posting any personal opinion on the matter. So far as the UK is concerned, if anyone here has downloaded and installed that piece of malware then Lefteris has violated the Computer Misuse Act; I have no idea which European laws or Greek laws he has violated or even if he can/should be prosecuted in the UK and I refuse to become an armchair lawyer
That's all well and good, but I think what is really disturbing is the link this guy has inadvertently exposed and will probably be most remembered for. How a genre of "Greek folk/world music" could have been unmistakably lifted from the all American country/western scene, literally right under our noses, without discovery until Paul's astute observation, must have been conducted at the highest levels with professional execution and it will probably take a Snowden like revelation to uncover the trail of the perps.

I don't know what she is singing about but put a lyric about a pickup truck in the song and she would do great in Nashville!
Indeed Paul, indeed. It would appear she's already been there..

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Need more proof?
Nana Mouskouri: Country songs
I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest they are using subliminals. The music is absolutely intoxicating, you've been warned..
 
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