SDK Problem Windsock with wind direction, please ....

[lumat]

Hi all

I create a windsock for MSFS.

The animation work well depending on the strength of the wind. But the windsock don't move according the the wind direction.

I made a little file to try just this animation, with the same result.

This file is a "modelLib" object in my scenery.
If anybody can help me, I join this little file
Thanks

 

[mamu]

Maybe you should provide the model.xml of your Simobject, It Is there where magic Is done

Cross check with code i have provided here for a wind direction animation

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[lumat]

Thank you for your answer.
My object is in the modelLib folder and not in a simobject. Is it a problem ?

 

[mamu]

It Is,
How Is your windosock moving _according_ to the strength of the Wind?

A Simobject Is the only way to gather Sim variables (Wind Speed, Wind directions, time, season, precipitation and so on)

In the Simobject you can define the name of the animation for each Wind strength










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[lumat]

I confirm : My windsock work well according to the wind strengh (I made different animations for some wind speeds). The animation work.
There is only a problem with the orientation

I'll try with a simobject

 

[Tisor]

Just facing some issues here also with the SampleWindsock model from the SDK Samples. I imported the gltf into Blender and have good mesh, but I think animations are all broken as reading from the gltf.

Has anyone managed to get the sample into blender working? I'm ok with the animations like the LightHouse tutorial from Flying Theston but when coming into spines like the example model I'm lost.

Is there any reference I can check about this?

 

[mamu]

Just facing some issues here also with the SampleWindsock model from the SDK Samples. I imported the gltf into Blender and have good mesh, but I think animations are all broken as reading from the gltf.

Has anyone managed to get the sample into blender working? I'm ok with the animations like the LightHouse tutorial from Flying Theston but when coming into spines like the example model I'm lost.

Is there any reference I can check about this?

There Is a very interesting 3d about that, including instruction and tutorial

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You Better start from scratch rather than importing a glTF

If you are not in an hurry best solution (to me) Is using premade objects by trfsto (tutorial author and windy thing Dev in flightsim.to)
Or waiting for Asobo's Blender exporter

Or using 3ds max, you have 1 month free, and bone animation Is literally straightforward!

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[lumat]

"Or waiting for Asobo's Blender exporter"

good news if it's planned I had not seen this news

I made a "simObjects" windsock.
I put it in :
My scenery...\PackageSources\SimObjects\StaticObject\Windsock
with a "model", a "texture" folder and a sim.cfg (I was inspired by your example : easy guide ....)
But but it does not appear in the list of simObjects

I don't have this problem with the others type of objects (ModelLib)
is there a particularity with the simObjects ?

 

[mamu]

"Or waiting for Asobo's Blender exporter"

good news if it's planned I had not seen this news

I made a "simObjects" windsock.
I put it in :
My scenery...\PackageSources\SimObjects\StaticObject\Windsock
with a "model", a "texture" folder and a sim.cfg (I was inspired by your example : easy guide ....)
But but it does not appear in the list of simObjects

I don't have this problem with the others type of objects (ModelLib)
is there a particularity with the simObjects ?

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[mamu]

"Or waiting for Asobo's Blender exporter"

good news if it's planned I had not seen this news

I made a "simObjects" windsock.
I put it in :
My scenery...\PackageSources\SimObjects\StaticObject\Windsock
with a "model", a "texture" folder and a sim.cfg (I was inspired by your example : easy guide ....)
But but it does not appear in the list of simObjects

I don't have this problem with the others type of objects (ModelLib)
is there a particularity with the simObjects ?

Attached the full source of my weather station, if you want to take a look, it is a simple simbobject with a vane and anemometer

you are exptected to put this in PackageSources/Landmarks/

and of course yo will need an assegroup in your packagedefinitions.xml like this

<AssetGroup Name="SimObjects">
            <Type>SimObject</Type>
            <Flags>
                <FSXCompatibility>false</FSXCompatibility>
            </Flags>
            <AssetDir>PackageSources\SimObjects\Landmarks\LIDT_METEO\</AssetDir>
            <OutputDir>SimObjects\Landmarks\LIDT_METEO\</OutputDir>
        </AssetGroup>

 

[rhumbaflappy]

There are a variety of windsock simobjects you could already use in the sim:

And the SDK has a windsock example.

 

[lumat]

Ok, thank you Mamu and Dick

I had a mistake in my xml.file.
by comparing mine and yours, Mamu, I saw it and I was able to correct it

Now my windsock works well

Thanks for help

 

[Tisor]

Thanks, I tried the cloth tutorial but have no luck, I'm a bit lost on the bone part. Maybe would be easier for that part use 3ds max and the .max from the example.

 

[lumat]

Maybe start with something more simple, as a animated cylinder / windsock. 5 bones are enough and it's easier to manage to begin.
And there are some tutos like this one

 

[Tisor]

Well, after some try error I could figure out the point I was stuck on the tutorial, and have the tutorial for the cloth finished.

I have 7 bones but know I'm trying to figure out how to make the react to the wind velocity.

I was able to do a rotation animation to the wind direction, which is ok. But trying to check the flag tutorial, I don't see the point were I can map the bones to the actual xml animations which will animate the different segments dependant of the wind.

I'm not sure, but my NLA Track after the tutorial look like this:

Bones disappeared from the list. If I change the bone names on the hierarchy view and then setup the XML for the animation, should it behave as the windshock?

The tutorial for FSX looks different from what we have for MSFS, as far as I know...

 

[lumat]

The tuto for FSX, it was only for the bones creation and working with blender.

For the cloth animation under MSFS, I don't know Tisor. I haven't watched this tutorial yet
but I will do that too. I think it's the same principle than the windsocks
but someone can help you

 

[lumat]

I have another problem: in the game, the animation of my custom windsock in relation to the direction of the wind is correct to the north and south but the directions East and West are reversed.
It doesn’t matter if I correct the orientation of the windsock at 0° in the xml.

Anybody got any ideas?
I join 2 screens to show the problem

Thank for help

 

[mamu]

First, add more Wind
How did you do your rotation animation? It Is supposed to go clockwise
(zero to 359)

As a suggestion, for the orientation use the msfs template, search for the windsock.xml in your official folder

You Just Need an animation with 360 degrees rotation on Z axis and node called Orientation in your blend file

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[lumat]

Thanks Mamu
Ok I checked the animation and it was going counterclockwise.
I corrected it but now the problem is North/South
I don't understand

 

[mamu]

did some research:

this works well when making the rotation clockwise
frame 0 - Z value rotation 0
frame 360 - Z value -359 (minus 359)
maybe, also the direction of the axis of your object is important!


funny thing, when using Asobo template

<Behaviors>

        <Include ModelBehaviorFile="Asobo\Misc\SimObjects.xml"/>
        
        <Component ID="WindTurbine">
            <UseTemplate Name="ASOBO_WindDirection_Template">
            </UseTemplate>
        </Component>

    </Behaviors>

the cone is pointing to the wind direction (wind direction is where the wind is coming from)

(this is the guts of the asobo template : <ANIM_CODE>(A:AMBIENT WIND DIRECTION,degrees) 180 + dnor</ANIM_CODE>)


when instead using the former PartInfo coding style, the back of the wind turbine nacelle is pointing to the wind direction

<Animation guid="8f34f6bc-4b05-4d45-8bec-43a29ad0d0f7" name="Orientation" type="Sim" typeParam2="Orientation" typeParam="Autoplay"/>

<PartInfo>

            <Name>Orientation</Name>

            <AnimLength>360</AnimLength>

            <Animation>

                <Parameter>

                    <Code>(A:AMBIENT WIND DIRECTION, Degrees)</Code>

                </Parameter>

            </Animation>

        </PartInfo>