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MV-22B Osprey (Release 1.0)
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Hi Josh,Alright, here is the (unofficial) Walk-through video for the MV-22B. I apologize for my raspy voice, Ive had a sore throat for a couple of days now. Now the original video was supposed to be around 15 minutes long. I doubled that, and a lot of people dont like watching a 30 minute video, just to understand the basics (especially including me lol). So I provided a Table of Contents in the beginning of the video AND in the description of the video, so that you can quickly find what part you do not understand about the aircraft. If anyone has any questions, let me know
What a fantastic video !!!!
Demonstrates some things even I never tried (like FuelDump, and how the MFD-Map screen works ......
If you would ever do a re-make of this video (raspy voice ...LoL), maybe you can add:
- A remark on Weight (important for VTOL, and needed runway for STOL takeoffs )
- Demonstrate VRS (and recovery) ... Not sure why, but this feature seems to surprise everybody ...
Cheers, Rob
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Yes, smoke system are used by rotor dust, and it control in gauge.
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Thanks, kalong. If I add a couple of dust effects under "Smokesystem", will that be registered in the gauge?
How it works: the gauge switches 4 different dust/waterspray effects (left/right side), depending on the underlying ground surface.
So either smoke.1/.2 , .3/.4, .5/.6 or .7/.8 is On (or none of them).
You can add a smoke.9= entry , and that is toggled on/off by the general SmokeToggle event (default: "I" key)
The problem is that using the SmokeToggle event switches ALL Smokesystem entries; so you will see still the dust effects temporarily switched On too after an SmokeToggle event (and corrected by the gauge to the intended position).
Rob
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Got it. Thanks, Rob.
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I posted on SOH, but since this is the main forum for the 22 I'll repeat here. Had a VMM-161 MV-22B Blk B at a local air show this weekend. Talked with the aircraft commander about general handling and some basic cruise numbers. He was a former H-46 guy and said the 22 is "okay" in VTOL mode, better in airplane mode. Single engine is a non-event in airplane mode, a little dicey if hovering. Cruise is normally done low, as they don't like to wear their O2 masks, also have O2 limits with pax onboard. They flew over from CA to TX around 11,000ft, 200-220kts, burning about 3200pph. A2A refueling is done at 200kts, local KC-130Js provide the gas. I was reminded from a few years ago when I first walked through one, it's smaller than it looks on the inside.
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After being with a V-22 squadron for a while with the Marines, the biggest thing the Marine Corps has to learn about this aircraft is that it IS NOT a direct replacement for the H-46. Its not a helicopter; its so much more. Sitting around in a hover for a lengthy period of time is not an optimal use of this aircraft. It can get in and out of an LZ faster than any rotary wing aircraft out there and escape a hostile engagement zone faster; limit its exposure time. Its biggest asset is speed and lift capability; and the fact that it can take off and land vertically is a bonus. This aircraft can rapid deploy from Okinawa to the Philippines in 3 hours, carrying its own tools/people if needed. Buddy deploying with a KC-130 was usually the norm. Try that with any other helicopter out there; you can't. The logistics needed included either ships to transport the CH-46's or break them down (remove the blades and transmissions) to haul them in C-5's or C-17's. Sure, a CH-53E can make it, but its takes forever and there is no way that same aircraft can turn around and fly a mission same day. We did it routinely. As I always pointed out to the die hard H-46 pilots and maintainers, when was the last time a CH-46 flew to Guam; never. MV-22's have done it multiple times with no incident.
The Marine Corps is still figuring out how to use this aircraft effectively and its matured to the point that they are comfortable with slapping weapons on it and possibly using it as a AAR platform. Most accidents involved H-46 transfer pilots as they tried to "fly" the V-22 like a helicopter. Think of the V-22 like a miniature C-130 that can land and take off vertically. The V-22 brings so much to the fight and shrinks the battle-space dramatically. Instead of weapons, what the V-22 really needs is a good active IRCM (i.e. DIRCM) but that is just my opinion. The most important thing to remember about the V-22 is that it completely re-writes heli-borne assault. Yes, the H-46 can outclass the V-22 in a very small number of scenarios; the V-22 totally decimates the H-46 in everything else.
As you can see, I'm a passionate supporter of the V-22. Wasn't always that way; but after you see what she can do it totally changes one's perspective and opinion. The real hero of any V-22 squadron are the maintainers; this beast is a maintenance nightmare. But with a competent maintenance crew and spare parts, she can compete with the H-46 readiness any day.
This aircraft release, for me, is wonderful and I truly appreciate all the members who contributed made this build a realization. Hats off.
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I maintain too in SOH, but posting in here too is no problem, better for every one that maintain watch the forum.
Thanks too for very good information, that fuel burn is very specific. will make correction if needed.
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Just wanted to thank Maryadi, and everyone involved for creating the best version of my favourite aircraft. ever. Installed on my win7 64 box with no problems (FSX:A) One minor issue I found (may be known already) was in trying to create the parking RON flight in the manual (18.3.3 - 5). With the nacelles controlled by the spoiler axis, I could not control the nacelles once the engines were turned off and the blades were folded. I could be at 90 degrees /blades folded, or fully stowed (automatically moves nacelles to 0). I changed the nacelle control to the aileron trim and was able to create that flight. Might want to make a note in the manual.
I'm having a minor issue with my laptop - ASUS G50, Vista64 FSX:A in that when in the VC, all of the screens are zoomed in (guessing a factor of 4?) MFD, PFD, CDU, even the AP panel. The minipanelv3 is zoomed in properly. I started in the VC so I don't think it's conflicting, and its the same minipanel as in my win7 system, and the panel.cfg files are identical. One possible issue is that this laptop is an odd size if I remember correctly (1366x768) If it's something really dumb I should have known in the settings or fsx.cfg I apologize in advance. I did a couple google searches and couldn't find anyone else with a similar problem on another airplane. Definitely a low priority, as I do not use this laptop very often.
I should be getting my pro flight trainer puma in a week or two, can't wait to see how this plane handles with it. Gotta admit a twist throttle would make a pretty good nacelle control.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0DNzkfQmPrjMjBjZkRfWktpVnc/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0DNzkfQmPrjd0dwdTM5QlMtQTQ/view?usp=sharing
I'm having a minor issue with my laptop - ASUS G50, Vista64 FSX:A in that when in the VC, all of the screens are zoomed in (guessing a factor of 4?) MFD, PFD, CDU, even the AP panel. The minipanelv3 is zoomed in properly. I started in the VC so I don't think it's conflicting, and its the same minipanel as in my win7 system, and the panel.cfg files are identical. One possible issue is that this laptop is an odd size if I remember correctly (1366x768) If it's something really dumb I should have known in the settings or fsx.cfg I apologize in advance. I did a couple google searches and couldn't find anyone else with a similar problem on another airplane. Definitely a low priority, as I do not use this laptop very often.
I should be getting my pro flight trainer puma in a week or two, can't wait to see how this plane handles with it. Gotta admit a twist throttle would make a pretty good nacelle control.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0DNzkfQmPrjMjBjZkRfWktpVnc/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0DNzkfQmPrjd0dwdTM5QlMtQTQ/view?usp=sharing
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Hi Kolijah,
for spoiler control will investigate it.
zooming panel.
did you have this happen at first time or after you add some gauge?
if that happen after make change on gauge, would you start all over again (install again), let see it still work or not.
if new install work, would you add one by one gauge and check it.
I suspected there has some conflicting with my gauge, will investigate first.
maryadi
for spoiler control will investigate it.
zooming panel.
did you have this happen at first time or after you add some gauge?
if that happen after make change on gauge, would you start all over again (install again), let see it still work or not.
if new install work, would you add one by one gauge and check it.
I suspected there has some conflicting with my gauge, will investigate first.
maryadi
Your observation is correct; more specifically:
If the Proprotors are Locked, the SpoilerControl doesn't work anymore; it WILL still work when Proprotors aren't locked, but not rotating anymore.
This has all to do with the complex implementation of mapping an axis control (like Spoiler) onto the nacelles control; which is tricky enough as-is to get it fool-proof. So I don't think I will change that.
Background:
In the real V22, the pilot doesn't have a "lever" to control the nacelles, just an up/center/down thumbswitch to command the nacelles up or down.
The resulting rotation speed up/down (or if the nacelles move at all) is determined by the FMC.
With an up/center/down switch on your controller (or two seperate keys/buttons) generating Aileron commands this works perfect; just like in the real MV22.
The problem when using an axis lever (or thumbwheel) is that it's impossible to force the position of a lever to the actual position of the nacelles from FSX/P3D (would require very dedicated hardware).
Meaning that, in a lot of situations, the visual position of the controller lever doesn't match the real position of the nacelles; eg. when you are on the ground and proprotors rotating, the min nacelles position is 60 degrees.
That depends (see explanation above) how this twist throttle works and how you can assign it to FS commands.
If you can assign it like a 3-position switch (using repetitive AileronTrim commands): Yes, it would.
But if you can only assign it to an axis: same problem as with a thumbwheel or lever axis.
Rob