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tgycgijoes · 7 Apr 2023

I have installed two switches onto my panel RIGHT OUT of the cpt toggles without any changes whatsoever. I also updated the aircraft.cfg so that it has a primer and an electric fuel pump. by changing the first 0 in each aircraft.cfg entry to a 1 which I understand is NO to YES, true? Here are the two codes:

Code:

<Gauge Name="Primer" Version="1.0">
   <Element>
      <Select>
         <Value>(A:ENGINE PRIMER,bool)</Value>
         <Case Value="0">
            <Image Name="switch_off.bmp" ImageSizes="39,59"/>
         </Case>
         <Case Value="1">
            <Image Name="switch_on.bmp" ImageSizes="39,59"/>
         </Case>
      </Select>
   </Element>
   <Mouse>
      <Help ID="HELPID_CESS_PRIMER_SWITCH"/>
      <Cursor Type="Hand"/>
      <Click Event="TOGGLE_PRIMER"/>
   </Mouse>
</Gauge>

Code:

<Gauge Name="FuelPump 1" Version="1.0">
   <Element>
      <Select>
         <Value>(A:General eng1 fuel pump switch,bool)</Value>
         <Case Value="0">
            <Image Name="switch_off.bmp" ImageSizes="35,31"/>
         </Case>
         <Case Value="1">
            <Image Name="switch_on.bmp" ImageSizes="35,31"/>
         </Case>
      </Select>
   </Element>
   <Mouse>
      <Tooltip ID="">Fuel Pump 1</Tooltip>
      <Help ID="Boost Pump"/>
      <Cursor Type="Hand"/>
    <Click Event="TOGGLE_ELECT_FUEL_PUMP1"/>
   </Mouse>
</Gauge>

Neither switch moves from on or off position it just there. There IS a hand click on the panel but nothing happens. What is missing? This is stock code toggles from cpt_toggles with their switches.

BaiterOne · 7 Apr 2023

I reckon

<Value>(A:ENGINE PRIMER,bool)</Value>

and

<Value>(A:General eng1 fuel pump switch,bool)</Value>

need to be looked at.

I can find neither variable in the list of variables that I use at

Simulation Variables

Walter

tgibson · 7 Apr 2023

In the FSX SDK the format used for the fuel pump variable is listed as GENERAL ENG FUEL PUMP SWITCH:index

And the variable I see for the primer is RECIP ENG PRIMER:index

Not tested by me.

Maddz · 7 Apr 2023

This help?..

XML:

<!-- ======================= Primer L/R ========================= -->
    <Element>
        <Position X="20" Y="79" />
        <Select>
            <Value>(A:Recip eng primer:1,bool)</Value>
            <Case Value="0">
                <Image Name="top_popup_switch_primer_left_off.bmp" />
            </Case>
            <Case Value="1">
                <Image Name="top_popup_switch_primer_left_on.bmp" />
            </Case>
        </Select>
    </Element>
    <Element>
        <Position X="68" Y="82" />
        <Select>
            <Value>(A:Recip eng primer:2,bool)</Value>
            <Case Value="0">
                <Image Name="top_popup_switch_primer_right_off.bmp" />
            </Case>
            <Case Value="1">
                <Image Name="top_popup_switch_primer_right_on.bmp" />
            </Case>
        </Select>
    </Element>
    <!-- ======================= Booster L/R ======================== -->
    <Element>
        <Position X="113" Y="83" />
        <Select>
            <Value>(A:General eng fuel pump switch:1,bool)</Value>
            <Case Value="0">
                <Image Name="top_popup_switch_booster_pump_left_off.bmp" />
            </Case>
            <Case Value="1">
                <Image Name="top_popup_switch_booster_pump_left_on.bmp" />
            </Case>
        </Select>
    </Element>
    <Element>
        <Position X="163" Y="85" />
        <Select>
            <Value>(A:General eng fuel pump switch:2,bool)</Value>
            <Case Value="0">
                <Image Name="top_popup_switch_booster_pump_right_off.bmp" />
            </Case>
            <Case Value="1">
                <Image Name="top_popup_switch_booster_pump_right_on.bmp" />
            </Case>
        </Select>
    </Element>

tgycgijoes · 7 Apr 2023

there is only one primer and one fuel pump each but I will try the left hand code from each one and see what happens in just a few moments and get back here, thanks. OK I copied down each code and used just the boost left the first portion. I added Gauge Name and </Gauge> XML Evaluator says no errors in the code. I removed the position because it first gave me a weird gauge and when I did that I loads up perfectly. BUT the switch still does not fuction. AND I SAY WHY NOT? Everything looks right.

So here is what I have now:

Code:

<!-- ======================= Booster ======================== -->

<Gauge Name="FuelPump 1" Version="1.0">
    <Element>
         <Select>
            <Value>(A:General eng fuel pump switch:1,bool)</Value>
            <Case Value="0">
                <Image Name="switch_off.bmp" />
            </Case>
            <Case Value="1">
                <Image Name="switch_on.bmp" />
            </Case>
        </Select>
    </Element>
   <Mouse>
      <Tooltip ID="">Fuel Pump 1</Tooltip>
      <Help ID="Boost Pump"/>
      <Cursor Type="Hand"/>
    <Click Event="TOGGLE_ELECT_FUEL_PUMP1"/>
   </Mouse>
</Gauge>

tgycgijoes · 8 Apr 2023

tgibson said:
In the FSX SDK the format used for the fuel pump variable is listed as GENERAL ENG FUEL PUMP SWITCH:index

And the variable I see for the primer is RECIP ENG PRIMER:index

Not tested by me.

I tried the GENERAL ENG FUEL PUMP SWITCH:index, bool and the switch is still not active. NO UP OR DOWN so something is wrong but I can't find what either. I also tried to look for another aircraft in fsx with a fuel pump to see how they coded it but could not find any in my hanger of pretty much default aircraft.

downloading a T34 and a beech v tail to see if they have fuel pumps and how they are coded because I am really stumped.

tgycgijoes · 8 Apr 2023

Well so much for the V-35 it uses all Baron and Bravo gauges which do not have a fuel pump. Waiting on the T34 Mentor. Hope that it has a fuel pump. Its 101MB so it should have its own gauges I hope. No such luck. First, they were all .gau not xml and then I WAS able to read the panel.cfg and there was no fuel pump. All I want is to see what someone did that works switch on off and all.

This is from the Daviator Stearman Primer gauge and I had to take a "Key code" out and it works. It does NOT have a fuel pump so I am still looking for help there.

Code:

<Gauge Name="Primer_Toggle"
Version="1.0">
   <Element>
      <Select>
         <Value>(G:Var1,bool)</Value>
         <Case Value="0">
            <Image Name="primer_off.bmp"
ImageSizes="55,62"/>
         </Case>
         <Case Value="1">
            <Image Name="primer_on.bmp"
ImageSizes="55,62"/>
         </Case>
      </Select>
   </Element>



   <Mouse>
       <Help
ID="HELPID_CESS_PRIMER_SWITCH"/>
      <Cursor Type="Hand"/>
<Click>(G:Var1) ! (&gt;G:Var1) </Click>
   </Mouse>
</Gauge>

BaiterOne · 8 Apr 2023

That Stearman Primer Gauge, as it is coded, would purely be for show. No priming takes place. The switch just moves.

Maddz · 8 Apr 2023

tgycgijoes said:
there is only one primer and one fuel pump each but I will try the left hand code from each one and see what happens in just a few moments and get back here, thanks. OK I copied down each code and used just the boost left the first portion. I added Gauge Name and </Gauge> XML Evaluator says no errors in the code. I removed the position because it first gave me a weird gauge and when I did that I loads up perfectly. BUT the switch still does not fuction. AND I SAY WHY NOT? Everything looks right.

So here is what I have now:

Code:

 <Gauge Name="FuelPump 1" Version="1.0"> <Element> <Select> <Value>(A:General eng fuel pump switch:1,bool)</Value> <Case Value="0"> <Image Name="switch_off.bmp" /> </Case> <Case Value="1"> <Image Name="switch_on.bmp" /> </Case> </Select> </Element> <Mouse> <Tooltip ID="">Fuel Pump 1</Tooltip> <Help ID="Boost Pump"/> <Cursor Type="Hand"/> <Click Event="TOGGLE_ELECT_FUEL_PUMP1"/> </Mouse> </Gauge>

I dont see anything obvious why it wont work.

For clarity, here the mouse section from the code i posted above; but its pretty identical so i dont think it'll help but hey ho, here we go;

XML:

<!-- Booster Pump L/R -->
        <Area Left="115" Top="92" Right="196" Bottom="149">
            <Help ID="HELPID_GAUGE_SWITCH_FUEL_PUMP" />
            <Area Right="41">
                <Tooltip ID="TOOLTIPTEXT_ENG1_FUEL_PUMP" />
                <Cursor Type="Hand" />
                <Click Event="TOGGLE_ELECT_FUEL_PUMP1" />
            </Area>

tgycgijoes · 8 Apr 2023

If the air file which by the way I should have checked, I do have a program to open it, and see what it says in there for a primer. Also for a fuel pump. I will try that mouse code and see. No luck. It shows in FS Panel studio but is missing in FSX. If it is REALLY un-necessary then I may just put a cpt toggle dummy switch there which clicks but doesn't do anything as said about the Stearman primer. Thank you for trying.

tgibson · 8 Apr 2023

Do you have:

electric_pump=1

in the Fuel section of the plane's aircraft.cfg file?

tgycgijoes · 8 Apr 2023

tgibson said:
Do you have:

electric_pump=1

in the Fuel section of the plane's aircraft.cfg file?

that was it! I had "fuel pump" =1 under electric but 0 under the fuel section so it's fixed now thanks for the heads up this is closed issue now

tgycgijoes · 12 Apr 2023

I have been able to add the low fuel pressure lamp gauge and the low oil pressure lamp gauge into the spartan panel and both work. There is a third warning lamp the generator lamp that I created code for using the above low pressure gauges as examples and code from the sim variables list (I thought, back here again) ran the code through the xml validator which said no errors but it does not load onto the panel. Here is the code if you can see what might be wrong please.

Code:

<Gauge Name="Generator Lamp" Version="1.0">
   <Image Name="lampoff.bmp" Transparent="Yes" Luminous="Yes"/>
   <Element>
     <Failures>
       <SYSTEM_ELECTRICAL_PANELS Action="NoDraw" />
     </Failures>
     <Visible>(A:ELECTRICAL GENALT ACTIVE,bool)</Visible>
     <Image Name="lampon.bmp" Bright="Yes" Transparent="Yes"/>
   </Element>
   <Mouse>
     <Tooltip ID="TOOLTIPTEXT_ELECTRICAL GENALT ACTIVE"/>
   </Mouse>
</Gauge>

Maddz · 12 Apr 2023

Missing index. I think.
(A:ELECTRICAL GENALT ACTIVE:1,bool)

BaiterOne · 12 Apr 2023

As Maddz said above .

Also I cannot test this, but I cannot find the failure you invoke in the list of failures in P3DV5.

I ignore the <Failures> completely in any gauge I create, and delete the section in any gauge I alter or reuse, so I am not sure if your failure name is correct.

The structure of the gauge works fine.

I have never seen Transparent="Yes" before in a gauge, I wonder what it achieves, it seems illogical to make something like a lamp transparent, anyway the lamp appears fine despite it.

Maddz · 12 Apr 2023

I’d like to know what the transparency is doing here too .

tgycgijoes · 12 Apr 2023

I will remove the failure line; add the 1 and take out the transparency and see what happens. Maybe the 1 is all it needs but we'll see. All of this code is from a fuel pressure xml gauge code that perfectly works. That is why I used it and just tried to alter it for the generator/alternator. I'll be back!

BaiterOne · 12 Apr 2023

Just remember that the gauge showed up for me with all the original code present...

tgycgijoes · 12 Apr 2023

I will never learn. The gauge works perfectly...when I save the code as XML in Notepad++ and not as Normal Text. I have not tested them in FSX yet but as far as FS Panel Studio is concerned they are ok. Anyway, again thank you to you all. I have a challenge for the very last gauge on the panel , it's the "NOSE DOWN" GAUGE which looks like the attached jpg and I don't have a clue how to approach it. I hope that you can help and the panel will be totally complete. I have the texture repaint in the thread at SOH with its highly polished aluminum finish. Here is a photo of the gauge

https://imgur.com/sFAr9CQ

tgibson · 12 Apr 2023

That is a trim gauge. Just use the code from any trim gauge and change it as needed. You will need to modify to fit your bitmaps.

Here is the code from the FS2004 Beech Baron, it includes a wheel element and a slider element. You need only the slider so I have deleted the wheel. It is Pitch Trim.xml in Beech_Baron.cab. It has no background bitmap; it uses the main panel bitmap. You can add that if you wish.

XML:

<Gauge Name="Pitch Trim" Version="1.0">
   <Element>
      <Image Name="PitchTrim_Pointer.bmp" ImageSizes="2,4,3,5">
         <Axis X="2" Y="2"/>
      </Image>
      <Shift>
         <Value Minimum="-15" Maximum="15">(A:Elevator Trim Position,degrees)</Value>
         <Nonlinearity>
            <Item Value="-15" X="15" Y="3"/>
            <Item Value="0" X="15" Y="30"/>
            <Item Value="+15" X="15" Y="57"/>
         </Nonlinearity>
      </Shift>
   </Element>
   <Mouse>
      <Help ID="HELPID_GAUGE_PITCH_TRIM"/>
      <Tooltip ID="TOOLTIPTEXT_PITCH_TRIM"/>
      <Area Bottom="30">
         <Click Event="ELEV_TRIM_DN" Repeat="Yes" MouseWheelFlip="Yes"/>
         <Cursor Type="DownArrow" Repeat="Yes"/>
      </Area>
      <Area Top="30">
         <Click Event="ELEV_TRIM_UP" Repeat="Yes" MouseWheelFlip="Yes"/>
         <Cursor Type="UpArrow"/>
      </Area>
   </Mouse>
</Gauge>

Hope this helps,