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Another Texture Problem

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Hi All

Ok Im working in FSDS3 and I found a texture I wanted to use (one from one of the ez-scenery files) . Its a brick building , however I took the windows out and moved around some parts of the brick to cover them up . All seemed to work well shows up in FSDS but FS wont load them. Any suggestions or helpfull hints ? Also they are 32bit as I recall but I even tried to change them to 8bit and so on and nothing.

Mike
 
Hi, what graphics program are you using to change the textures? I use DXTBmp and it always serves me well. Are you saving as MDL and then putting it through EZ-Scenery? I am no expert as I am still learning to use FSDSv3 but perhaps I can help? Send me the texture if you like.
 
Hey

I use PSP and DXT as well Im sure Im doing something wrong here not sure what.

Thanks
Mike


BTW it is a texture from another EZ Library and have no intentions of uploading so no one get mad.
 

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Hi, I did a little practice this morning. I worked on a pic and saved in 2 formats. 1st was DXT1(No Alpha) - this didn't show in FS but it did in FSDS - I ended up with a grey rectangle! I also saved in extended 24 bit bmp and this worked in both. Now why the DTX1 didn't show foxes me as I use it all the time. Anyway I like your bricks :) - you use the same prgrams as I do!
 
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Panic - I think I got it wrong! I did it again and this time the 24bit bmp didn't work but the DXT1 and DXT1(No Alpha) did. Anyway I am attaching all 3 for you to see.
 
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In FS it is best to use the DXT format with mipmaps for your textures. 24 bit texture are not supported in FS. However a lot of design programs can not show DXT textures directly, so in that case you would have to use a different format in the design program.

As DXT textures have a compression that is not a bad idea, as you probably want to keep an origional uncompressed version of your texture somewhere. You can use that one in the design tool as well then.

I usually use ImageTool to make my DXT textures, but DXTBMP should also do the job.
 
Thanks a bunch guys. I will ck it out as soon as I get home tonight (at work now ). I really appreciate all the help. Gotta love this place !

Mike
 
Hey

I got home and tried all 3 of the ones zipped up and still with each one I got a greay box. Any ideas ? Im gonna work on it a little more tonight and see what happens..

mike
 
Well it's got me beat! I've been at it all morning - the only thing I get is a grey square with 1 side ONLY showing the texture! I did another trial and used EOD and FSSC - brilliant - works like a charm! I then used different textures on all the sides except the face, which remained a DXT1 texture. It's OK but only one side is with your bricks!!!!! See the pic below - the small building is the EOD one.
 
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Tra! La! La! I'm happy! Here is my house made with your bricks! Pic and bmp (zipped) for you to see. Hope this helps you?
 
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Thanks a bunch ! I will try tonight and let you know either way....
I really appreciate you guys that step right in and help out when someone
needs help. I think that is what makes this site unique.

Also is there tutorial on texturing and using the DXT or image tool ?
Maybe one that goes step by step ? Believe it or not I used to paint A/c
(have many on avsim I did) and I knew those programs like the back of my hand. Of course after 3 brain surgeries Its hard sometimes to remember
yesterday. I have forgotten so much. Or maybe can some one post
a quick step by step . Im sure once I get into that part again most of the stuff will come back to me, its just getting started again.

Thanks Again
Mike
 
Hi Mike, please don't think I have it made! I tried various textures on the 'New Building' but met with failure every time! I tried to put a roof onto the building using a roof tiles textures that worked before with EOD but had the same results as we did before - one side is Ok but the others show only grey! It is exasperating. I do think though that it is a good idea to shut down the FSDS program every once in a while to clear the memory and start again. I have noticed that when I change the texture to something new it doesn't always show that I have changed the file by the save icon being lit up! I have a link for you to follow which might help - http://www.freeflightdesign.com/tutorials.html
Let me know if you have any luck - you can always send a PM if you don't want to post in the thread.
 
Hi
Thanks again ! I will check out the website provided and hope it will help me out. Again I really do appreciate all the help.

Mike
 
Hi Mike, I think it is a bug in FSDS. I have been trying all day to put a roof onto the buidling I had success with. Nothing worked. So I deleted the roof and copied and pasted the house and then changed the textures! To do the texture I used FS Repaint! I ruined a helicopter (only the damage bmp) just to use their tools - it worked. I tried all sorts of programs to arrange the texture but nothing worked except the original helicopter bmp (which is now my roof tiles). So I think that you must choose what you know to be a succesful FSDS model as a template - there is a template thingy in FSDS which I haven't tried yet. This worked for me. The result is in the pic below. Hope you understand what I am on about?
 
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Hi Mike, as I said in my PM I think it is all about FSDS finding textures. I think the texture you want to use should also be placed in the FSDS Projects folder. I used VASS to try and arrange an object and it tells me it cannot find the file even though the default folder is marked for the FS9 texture folder. I had a go at making a large bricks texture and the result is attached. I used PSP to make it - but you will need to change it to bmp of course.
 
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Hi guys...........

Same thing happens to me, I am sure it´s an FSDS bug...some textures work and some don´t...make sure you keep those that work in a "special" directory, like Warmingham says.;)

Warmingham, am still working on the towers!!!!
 
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Hey

@ Warmingham, I sent you another pm today. Thanks !

Im gonna do a defrag on my puter and see if that helps. Maybe between running FS9, FSDS3, EZ-Scenery, Library maker (?) , moving files from here to there something got screwed up. I havent defragged in a couple of weeks
so it cant hurt.

Hey Solid, hows it going ? At least I know we arent alone in this problem.
Of course for me it all started with this one texture. Now I have seen a few others do the same thing that was working and I havent even touched.


mike
 
Hi Mike. Defragging never does any harm - it might even do some good - I am not an expert. Look - it is as I said. Steps to take.
1. Always start afresh with FSDS.
2. Push the texture through DXTBmp and save as DXT1-No Alpha.
3. Make sure that the texture is in the FSDS Projects folder as well.
4. Keep your fingers crossed- LOL
Honestly I try so many things that I do not know whether I am coming or going.
So even if the object doesn't come out OK first time (as happened to me this evening) - still go back to step 1 and try again.
There is supposed to be an upgrade for FSDSv3 to 3.5 - when they decide to release it, perhaps then some of the bugs will be taken out, and you and I and Mr Solid indeed will be happier!
 
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