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Dick, you are wrong

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You are not right in altering a wiki article because you cannot comprehend it.
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I altered those things which I understand. I did not touch the original text meaning. So I did not touch the part which I do not understand yet.

The problem is that the author of the article cannot alter the text properly, when he did write such unclear article. So from my point of view, when he could not see it so somebody must come to correct it. And as far as I understand wiki. Wiki articles should be developed towards better understanding of ppl. The information must be added because it is open place where everybody can write if he has something important to add. And yes, this is important because everybody wants the articles to be good written, clearly so everybody can understand them and learn from them. You can lock this thread, but it will not change my mind and the fact that I am right. Sad truth is that nobody understands to the article (except the author) as nobody could answer my question.
 
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Ok, I have read your 'edits' and can tell you that you made things a mess. The answers to what you did not understand are actually already in the wiki. If you do not understand what someone has written, you do not rewrite it to match what you think it means. Ever.
 
IGR, I haven't seen your "edit" but why not just write a different version yourself and link it in the one you claim to know better than?

I think that even if you have full comprehension of a WIKI article, you shouldn't change it and make your own ne instead.
 
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We do not promote to have multiple wiki articles about the same topic. So everybody is welcome to make improvements to an article. That's what a wiki is, something ee can edit together.

But when I doubt it might be better to first contact the author or have a discussion on the forum about the topic. Once there is agreement the article can be changed.

And if mistakes are there, everybody is welcome to revert them as well of course.
 
Many articles assume the reader can understand English and has some idea of what the subject is about. The wiki article assumes the reader is familiar with hexadecimal systems and how they are used in obscure file formats. If your native language is not English and you are not familiar with the bgl file it would be best to be cautious and not edit unfamiliar material. Even a chump like me can leave well alone.
 
If anybody disagrees with my edits then you can simply remove them. What I added are the parts about explanation of quaternary and hexadecimal numeral (tables) and C codes for conversion. I also added a table to Final example. You also can edit it if you see some grammar mistakes.

@arno: there always are ppl in discussion with different opinions and you cannot never accept all opinions because they are often opposite. It would be hard to write/improve article according suggestions in discussion because such article could not be finished ever unless there is only one person with authority to confirm changes or possibly two such persons with authority. Not more.
 
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I think Shaun has the right solution. Make a new article and link it to the original.

Also, just because no one wished to discuss your problem doesn't mean no one understands the wiki article. Discussions and solutions are not manditory for the members. Many times members don't engage in discussions because they are busy with other things, or they believe the original poster will find the answers with a little more work. Occasionally, posters become annoying and no one will answer them.

Dick
 
I could move the part with explanation of numeral systems to another article on wiki if this would be approved with responsible person (who is responsible for wiki - arno?). But if you want I to move it I need examplain how to create new article in wiki and where to place it. Best would be if somebody would do it and I just edit it.
 
Once again, I will listen only to the head or authority responsible for wiki. I can remove the sections where I explained numeral system conversions only if I can move this part of article to another article. Also I don't know members here so you need to tell me who is responsible for Wiki, who is the head. I do not listen orders if they are not from appropriate ppl.
 
Since you seem to need someone in authority then that is me as one of the administrators of this forum. It seems to me that the Wiki needs to be returned to its state prior to this thread and that we should go from there.

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Once again, I will listen only to the head or authority responsible for wiki. I can remove the sections where I explained numeral system conversions only if I can move this part of article to another article. Also I don't know members here so you need to tell me who is responsible for Wiki, who is the head. I do not listen orders if they are not from appropriate ppl.
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Statements like this are really unhelpful. Please reduce the tone of your posting otherwise you are at risk of having them edited or removed. Folks here are trying to be helpful. We don't have heads of authority other than the admin and moderation team and I am one of them. I should also point out the Dick is a moderator here.
 
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Let's solve where can I place the edits made by me. Is here possibility to create new article, where I could place the part written by me? Otherwise you can do anything you want. I don't take care anymore.
 
What was the point of changing "A BGL file always start with a header (Size = 0x38 bytes)..." to "A BGL file always start with a header (Size = 56 bytes)..."?

Please the wiki back to where it was.
 
I'll revert the page later tonight.
 
mgh said:
What was the point of changing "A BGL file always start with a header (Size = 0x38 bytes)..." to "A BGL file always start with a header (Size = 56 bytes)..."?

Please the wiki back to where it was.
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There is
After the 56 bytes of header, at offset 0x38, there are
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and that's intelligible.
 
To convert from Hex to Decimal, Quaternary or even Binary there are online utilities which will do the job for you, like at picalc.com.

People who mess with raw files understand perfectly well why hex is often used when discussing raw file data, program offsets and suchlike – the file editors all use it because it fits with how computer data is formatted. There are times, and this is one of them, when decimal isn't so handy and would actually be less intelligible.
 
hairyspin said:
To convert from Hex to Decimal, Quaternary or even Binary there are online utilities which will do the job for you, like at picalc.com.

There are times, and this is one of them, when decimal isn't so handy and would actually be less intelligible.
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I don't need online tools. They are useless for programming.
 
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