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FSXA Effect doens't disappear at Day

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Dear All:

I have attached the default fx_navwhi.fx effect to two models using attachpoints.
The problem that I have is that the effect appears at Day and just disappears when I'm close to the object, If I move back it appears again.

Scenario:

Start at night, change time to Day ...

Long Distance:
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Short Distance:
8-11-2016 07-33-42.png
Model converter attachpoint:
8-11-2016 07-34-25.png 8-11-2016 07-34-43.png

I hope you can help me.

Regards
Alfredo Mendiola Loyola
Lima, Peru
 
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mendiola_loyola said:
Dear All:

I have attached the default fx_navwhi.fx effect to two models using attachpoints.

The problem that I have is that the effect appears at Day and just disappears when I'm close to the object, If I go away it appears again.
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Hello:

IIUC, when you say "If I go away it appears again", you mean if the user aircraft is moved farther away from the object to which you have attached the Effect, you are then able to see the attached Effect ?

Also, when you say "two models", are you referring to 3D MDL files ?


If so, this scenario might suggest that there is a LOD issue. :idea:

Thus, if there is a higher LOD version of the "two models" seen only at closer distances, the Effect also needs to be (separately) attached to the higher LOD version of the "two models". :scratchch


FYI: Depending on what conditions you intend for display of the Effect (Fx) file during the DAY versus during the NIGHT, the Effect 'may' need to be attached to AttachPoints twice, with specific (and different) Fx conditional display syntax in each such attachment using ex: MCX Attached Object Editor.


BTW: We may be able to help you better if you reply here, stating what you 'intend' for conditions of display of the Effect (Fx) file: ;)

* visible at DUSK, NIGHT, and DAWN ...but not during the DAY

...versus:

* visible at DAWN, DAY, and DUSK ...but not at NIGHT


PS: You may wish to review these threads for additional related information on use of AttachPoints with Effect (*.Fx) code on MDLs:

http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/effect-parameters-using-fsx-attach-tool.429670/


[EDITED]

...as well as these threads on Effect Parameters, regardless of the method by which they are "attached" and/or "placed":


http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/effects-conditions-day-night.435870/


http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/flood-lights-effect-visibility-problem.430877/


http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/effectparams.426780/



...and the pertinent SDK document sections:

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc526969.aspx#TestingEffects


https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc526976.aspx#TheAttachTool

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GaryGB
 
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GaryGB said:
Hello:

IIUC, when you say "If I go away it appears again", you mean if the user aircraft is moved farther away from the object to which you have attached the Effect, you are then able to see the attached Effect ?
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I mean, If I move back the aircraft from the Effect.

GaryGB said:
Also, when you say "two models", are you referring to 3D MDL files ?
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Yes

GaryGB said:
If so, this scenario might suggest that there is a LOD issue. :idea:

Thus, if there is a higher LOD version of the "two models" seen only at closer distances, the Effect also needs to be (separately) attached to the higher LOD version of the "two models". :scratchch

FYI: Depending on what conditions you intend for display of the Effect (Fx) file during the DAY versus during the NIGHT, the Effect 'may' need to be attached to AttachPoints twice, with specific (and different) Fx conditional display syntax in each such attachment using ex: MCX Attached Object Editor.


BTW: We may be able to help you better if you reply here, stating what you 'intend' for conditions of display of the Effect (Fx) file ...during the DAY versus during the NIGHT. ;)


PS: You may wish to review this thread for additional related information on use of AttachPoints with Effect (*.Fx) code on MDLs:

http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/effect-parameters-using-fsx-attach-tool.429670/


GaryGB
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I'm attaching my two Modes and the placement file.

I tried replacing commas by semicolon without success on the effect parameters.

What I want is to display a light effect just at Dawn,Dusk and Night.

I'm not using LODS.

Regards.
Alfredo MEndiola Loyola
 

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Hi again, Alfredo:

In addition to the linked threads now added in my edits of my post above: :pushpin:

http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/effect-doenst-disappear-at-day.437992/#post-751208


...I suggest that, since P3Dv3x introduced some new complexities for working with Effect lights, and since P3Dv3.x is one of the FS versions you intend to support via your scenery, you should also review this post: :idea:

http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/effect-library.437944/#post-750837


Sorry my available free time is rather limited right now, and that all this is in rather complex English; but I hope this info helps ! :)

GaryGB
 
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I have created a model with two attachpoints, but the result is the same, I can see the effect at Day in spite of the Effect Parameters.

8-11-2016 13-58-16.png 8-11-2016 13-58-03.png

Regards
Alfredo
 
Same problem in FS9...
I created light houses some time ago.
The effect works fine when time of day changes from "day" to "dusk", but remains if time changes from "dawn" to "day"...

I found no solution.

Edit: correction, I was not patient enough...

It takes about 10min from change of "dusk" to "day" to extinguish the lights...

(as far as my latest tests showed)
 
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hgschnell said:
Same problem in FS9...
I created light houses some time ago.
The effect works fine when time of day changes from "day" to "dusk", but remains if time changes from "dawn" to "day"...

I found no solution.

Edit: correction, I was not patient enough...

It takes about 10min from change of "dusk" to "day" to extinguish the lights...

(as far as my latest tests showed)
Click to expand...

Indeed, the FS "clock" for Time-of-Day related scenery object and/or terrain texture shadowing seems to work in 10-minute update increments.

One may wish to inspect for such changes and Effect display by temporarily setting a faster "FS simulation rate" from the FS menu. :idea:

GaryGB
 
I can't replicate this behavior in my computer with Windows 7 and FSXA.
This problem happens with (Windows 10 and FSXA) and with (Windows 7 and FSX-SE)
I don't have FSX-SE with windows 10 therefore I can't test it.

FSX-A: FSX Acceleration
FSX-SE: FSX Steam Edition

I think we shouldn't use effects with effectParameters to avoid this kind of displaying issues.

Regards.
Alfredo Mendiola Loyola
Lima, Peru
 
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