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Latest Build Refuses to Display Graphical Data

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This thread is a continuation of an issue first raised in October:
I guess I spoke too soon. While TS opens and imports fine, it seems that any change that reorients the display, removes it and it does not refresh, the window remains blank, even after quitting and restarting. Presumably every restart of P3D resets this condition and it is due to the .dll version mismatch. I do have many of the SDK's from P3D V2 down to FSX, so replacing the .dll is a possibility but I'll wait to see what "develops" here, ty.
Please see first sticky above.

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Your reply appeared to relate to the update released around that time. Apologetically, I abandoned that project until now, so the problem may appear to have been solved. In reality, the problem is actually "reversed," or at least revised.
So I started in yesterday with TS and I accepted the invitation to update. It would import my flatten but not display the dots. I could tell it had loaded because the geographical coordinates were correct. On one occasion I invoked the display units window and the dots appeared. I was able to mouse over them and see the pop-up messages - then it all disappeared, I think I changed the zoom or tried to scroll or something. Here is the view:

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I have two TS folders in my FSX Tools section and the one labeled "stable release" relates to version 12.0.2. It loads, displays and scrolls as expected, although I have not yet tested in in a session with the simulator running.

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In October I was working exclusively with the latest version of P3D, I am currently working in FSX-SE, although I don't see how the presence of the simulator can change the display characteristics of TS.

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So I started FSX and apparently taught the stable version how to withhold the display as well. With FSX running and the "not connected" message showing, I zoomed and consequently erased the display. I restarted TS 12.0.2 and it gave the connected to FSX through FSUIPC message, but refused to display dots.
 
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Rick, I am unable to duplicate this behavior. Further, with FSX running, both the new or old version should have connected to FSX automatically. Perhaps the problem lies within the data file itself. If you send me the file (don at stuff4fs dot com), I'll take a look. But do it quickly, I'm leaving in a couple of days for an extended period.

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I don't think it is likely to be the cvx type file, but I'll upload it for analysis sake. I think it has to do with .net framework or some way the software relates to W10 or my system configuration. Another thing I notice is that the task bar flashes a bit alarmingly as the latest build opens, this does not happen with 1.0.02. I would really like to use the software if there is some work of work around, thanks.
 

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I don't think it is likely to be the cvx type file
I hadn't appreciated earlier that you were importing a .bgl file as opposed to loading a TS-generated data file. When I attempt to import your file (or several of my own), I get a error message stating the file is not a terrain file. Did you not get such a message?

Obviously, that message is issued in error. I'll attempt to fix the issue before I leave on my travels this weekend.

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I misinformed you. The error messsage I received earlier was due to a test switch I had left active in my development version. I can import your file without any problem.

All I can suggest is that when you are successful in importing the file, you save it as a .tsd file and work on that rather than trying to repeatedly import/export the CVX.

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Well the flatten successfully imported each time, this is demonstrated by the cursor being at appropriate geographical coordinates for the airport. The circumstance is that I am trying to fine tune an airport flatten generated by ADE, which is what I thought to be a main application of TS. I have explored whether I could import the ADE flatten and save it, to open as .tsd. This does not work for me. In fact, when I open the sample "ts_FSX.tsd," there is also no data display whatsoever. I really think it is a circumstance of basic functionality of the software in this computer environment.
 

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Not sure how I can help you, Rick. It would seem your display is not responding to standard display commands. My development system is Win10/64. So, that would seem to rule out Win10. No one else has reported such an issue and I am unable to duplicate it. So, that at least suggests a local configuration issue.

I am leaving for an extended period this weekend and will be away from my development system for the duration. Perhaps by the time I return, the underlying cause will have revealed itself.

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Perhaps by the time I return, the underlying cause will have revealed itself.
What's more likely is that I'll stop trying. For me it never worked and there is no incentive to change the fact. How would you know how many people it actually did work for as opposed to those who tested it and decided it did not work for them.
 

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What's more likely is that I'll stop trying
Your choice.

How would you know how many people it actually did work for as opposed to those who tested it and decided it did not work for them.
I don't, nor did I even suggest a number. What I said was "No one else has reported such an issue." and that's a fact.

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Started using Terrain sculptor yesterday.
TLDR; any open of a .tsd file or import of CVX does not get displayed in the GUI on my version 1.2.07(a)

I started by trying to import an airport flatten. The import went fine. I was told their were no abnormalities. But no lines or nodes were displayed.
Decided to start from scratch and I could succesfully see and add my own nodes, build my own flattens and create blends. Saved my work to a .tsd file and exported a custom CVX. All worked well.
Came back today to open the project, nothing displayed. Tried importing the CVX I built yesterday; I assume i imported successfully as I got a message concerning nodes at similar elevations; clicked OK, still no nodes displayed.

Observations: when I load a new project, the coordinates remained at 0.00N, 0.00W. Even when I connected to P3D and moved the display to the aircraft location, I still see no nodes.

Find attached my project and CVX files for testing.
 

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Thanks for reporting. This version doesn't display my files either. New development release on its way - as soon as I figure out what's gone wrong.

Don

EDIT: In the meantime, if you revert to the general release , i.e., 1.2.07, you should be OK.

Don
 
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Development Release 1.2.07 resolves this issue.

Somehow, a line of code was added between testing and release. Sorry, folks

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