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MCX model conversion problem

kevintampa5

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Hey Arno the Great,

question, is there a maximum size a model can be for MCX to convert?
I have a structure that is 1100x500 and 50ft high.
I did a mdl conversion earlier this week same building, but this time its not working. minor changes needed a re-compiled mdl.
I have done about 8 models so far close to this size and had no issues with it.
I get no error messages, not failure indicators, when i click export, it places ASM and XML files, and i think scm, but no mdl. It originally shows but then disappears, unable to find on the drive, hidden system admin account search for the file and nothing.
 
Got this from MakeMDL log. FS9

err, copy and pasted the error code, but far too long.
The log is attached
 
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kevintampa5 said:
airside a

converting from .dae to mdl
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ok,.. if I understand you correctly,.. you created the dae through sketchup,... and no error messages given. Whats the number of drawcalls and texture vertices on this dae file?

How many textures does this model have?
 
kevintampa5 said:
54 dc's and 25 textures.
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ok,.. you asked if there was a maximum etc... its not so much a max to MCX as it is the compiler having a max. I'm not sure why you would need 54 dc,.. does seem like alot for a 4 sided building, no matter how tall it is. Is it possible to cut the model into peices (like 2) or simplify it so to speak?
 
Hi,

There is no maximum on the size of the model. But if you have many triangles it could be that you have too many triangles per material.

There makemdl errors seem to indicate triangles with collocated vertices. Normally modelconverterx should filter such polygons out.
 
Pyscen said:
ok,.. you asked if there was a maximum etc... its not so much a max to MCX as it is the compiler having a max. I'm not sure why you would need 54 dc,.. does seem like alot for a 4 sided building, no matter how tall it is. Is it possible to cut the model into peices (like 2) or simplify it so to speak?
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not 4 sided. see photo

i will split the smaller into own mdl. maybe that will fix it
 
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ok i split the models, now i want to center in mcx and im not seeing it in the manual
see attached photo. want the grid centered under the model, how do i do this?
 
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And one more thing, I have lost the lights added in MCX to objects. They were working before, now they are not. When I load the mdl into mcx they are still there, just no-show in sim.
 
kevintampa5 said:
ok i split the models, now i want to center in mcx and im not seeing it in the manual
see attached photo. want the grid centered under the model, how do i do this?
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The "Tranform Object" Tab or Icon.... is where it is. Considering the lights,.. you probably will have to re-place them, since you have moved the model.
 
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Hi,

Modelconverterx uses effect files for the lights, so these fx files have to be in your effects folder.
 
Pyscen said:
The "Tranform Object" Tab or Icon.... is where it is. Considering the lights,.. you probably will have to re-place them, since you have moved the model.
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For the lights, moving the model MDL file should not affect how it uses the FX files. It is hardwired to read directly from the EFFECTS folder inside the FS directory, correct?
All my effects are in the Effects folder of FS.

The MDL is loaded into ADE and placed using that, however the same happens on multiple objects. I will try a different method to place objects(sbuilder, xml, object placer, rwy12, MCX wizard) and see if I get the same result.
Using FXEditor, the effect still works, just not on the compiled MDL. I think it may be lost in the ADE compilation of the airport objects BGL, but will address with Jon if that is the case. Will report my findings later on.
 
arno said:
Hi,

There is no maximum on the size of the model. But if you have many triangles it could be that you have too many triangles per material.

There makemdl errors seem to indicate triangles with collocated vertices. Normally modelconverterx should filter such polygons out.
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Im not familiar with the whole triangle speak, how do I check/control this?
 
Hi,

About the effects, there is a bug in fs2004. If you have an exclude in your scenery, it will also exclude attached effects of your own scenery. So that might be bothering you.
 
arno said:
Hi,

About the effects, there is a bug in fs2004. If you have an exclude in your scenery, it will also exclude attached effects of your own scenery. So that might be bothering you.
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Lol. I forgot about bug. I remember that from long ago. Is there a fix for it or a way around it and still keep the exclude for default Taxi signs?
 
As I remember you might be able to change the file name of the exclude file (so it is listed either first or last alphabetically - I don't remember which it should be). Worth a try...
 
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