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mathijskok

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Paavo said:
MSFS Toolkit is dual-licensed: free for non-commercial use, but requires a paid license to exploit it commercially.

I have recently discovered many examples of commercial products that have been created using the free version of MSFS Toolkit.

By doing so, they consume fruits of the freeware scene, but do not contribute back in any form - not by releasing their products as freeware, and not by acquiring a commercial license that lets me keep things free for you.

The most notable offenders are Aerosoft (Anchorage, Gran Canaria, possibly more) and Island Creations (their entire portfolio). Since I always kept tweaking processing algorithms to find good default values, I can not only prove that they used MSFS Toolkit, but also pinpoint specific versions that they relied upon.

Attempts to establish contact with them to license MSFS Toolkit retrospectively were not answered and I am now handing the matter over to a law firm to take legal action against them for software piracy.

MSFS Toolkit will be available to the public again when this gets settled.
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Paavo, I was just pointed to this comment.

Now we are not the developer for these products, just the publisher, so I simply do not know the technical details. That does not change anything about our responsibility to check this, of course. We will immediately try to get some more information from the development team(s), and when needed solve this. If you like to discuss this feel free to contact me at Mathijs.Kok@aerosoft.com.

Mathijs Kok
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jonmkj

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Sent an email regarding obtaining a commercial license of my own. I do already have the program.
 
imtiazchuttoo

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The link for the toolkit/program is broken.

Chan someone share this tool please?

MSFS2020 does not provide high resolution terrain for my location i.e Mauritius. I have a high resolution Geotiff for my location that I successfully converted to BGL to be used in FSX and P3D which I sahred in Flightsim.com and elsewhere but same cannot be loaded in MSFS2020. Thanks in advance for your support.
 
rhumbaflappy

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imtiazchuttoo said:
The link for the toolkit/program is broken.

Chan someone share this tool please?
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Earlier in this thread: Why the toolkit is currently unavailable
And no, we are not supposed to share this program. Paavo will make it available when he is satisfied the unauthorized commercial use of it has stopped, and he has been compensated.

A better approach is to nag Asobo to release their tools to create CGLs. They have promised us they would do so, but still have not... months and years later. (Similar to seasons)
 
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I agree with the importance of getting a Terrain SDK from Asobo released for the MSFS developer community to work with ASAP.

We need a documented MSFS 3D world Terrain quad grid tile vertex coordinate set that is "known and calculable" for all LODs that are intended to be accessible for current- and future- use in MSFS Terrain scenery development.

GaryGB
 
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rhumbaflappy said:
Earlier in this thread: Why the toolkit is currently unavailable
And no, we are not supposed to share this program. Paavo will make it available when he is satisfied the unauthorized commercial use of it has stopped, and he has been compensated.

A better approach is to nag Asobo to release their tools to create CGLs. They have promised us they would do so, but still have not... months and years later. (Similar to seasons)
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That's like penalising paying customers for piracy when piracy won't ever go away and one just alienates paying customers offering a worse off product than pirates, as much as I appreciate where you are coming from and read the thread. If one makes a tool to benefit the freeware community doing this just penalise said community working to make the sim a better place for all of us, or fun for whoever just enjoy developing freeware for people to enjoy. I fully support the developer of the tool to pursue any legal avenue, however said people already have the tool.

Asobo is chasing too many things and of course it is a game developer I doubt even a fraction of the team still work on MSFS full time :)
 
rhumbaflappy

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CGL is mesh, world object placement, and aerial imagery. I fail to see how this would contribute to piracy. We can already do this with tools provided by Asobo. Creating with CGL is a more efficient method.
 
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I just keep reading whatever messages are here so I can see when it's available again. :wave:

(Please don't close the thread 🙏)
 
aut0mater

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Looking forward to the new updates for the tool. Hopefully these licensing issues are resolved soon.
 
=Hollywood=

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I know I'm late to the party, and I've waited 32 years for the data I've been needing to work on some sheer cliffs in the city I grew up in. Paavo I sent you an email asking about a commercial license (even though I'll be using it for personal reasons I think you should be honored and compensated.) If there's any way you could reach out to me about a commercial license I'd appreciate it. I'm dying to get this data into MSFS as FSX/P3D while simple to generate DEM just don't cut it for me anymore.
 
mamu

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Jazzmog said:
You are spreading copyrighted software. This post is reported
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The software came with an EULA that doesn't explicitly prevent sharing the package

I'm really sorry about the abuse some dishonest sellers did with Pavoo's tools. Maybe be should also revoke the Eula and fix License page

License | MSFS Toolkit

MSFS Toolkit is free for personal, non-commercial use. See the EULA for license information. When using MSFS Toolkit in a project, we kindly ask you to credit: Created using MSFS Toolkit by Nool Aerosystems (https://msfs.nool.ee/) If you have any questions, or if you wish to obtain a...
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shadeobrady

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Is there currently an alternative to this method, specifically its elev offering?

I have my airport's DEM ready to go for input - shot an email a couple weeks ago to Nool / Paavo and tried a direct message him here with no success on figuring out how to obtain a license.

I'm just floored with any attempts to do it manually so far... the current SDK offerings are extremely tedious to say the least.
 
pyreegue

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shadeobrady said:
Is there currently an alternative to this method, specifically its elev offering?

I have my airport's DEM ready to go for input - shot an email a couple weeks ago to Nool / Paavo and tried a direct message him here with no success on figuring out how to obtain a license.

I'm just floored with any attempts to do it manually so far... the current SDK offerings are extremely tedious to say the least.
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Same here. Been storming his email but no response. I hope he's ok.
 
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