open door hangar

dariush · 1 Sep 2021

Hi everyone,
this is my first post.
I just curious to ask is it possible to make a open door hangar on blender and park the aircrafts inside it. is it possible?
I think that's what we need a lot for Microsoft flight simulator 2020!

mamu · 1 Sep 2021

Yeah, you can create every kind of 3d object with Blender

Want an hangar with open Doors? Add a cube and scale It to the size of your hangar,
add two loop cuts,
scale them on the "long" size,
Delete the face between the 2 loop cuts
Add a solidify modifier and apply
Add your texture, export and Place in the Sim, boom, you have and hangar with the "Door" open (missing Door Indeed)
You can enter the hangar or Place a static plane inside

Instedad, If you are looking for a way to open an hangar Door in the Sim (aka trigger an animation)
...It Is nearly impossible..at the moment,
Hope Asobo add a way to do such wonders we have in previous sims

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dariush · 1 Sep 2021

mamu said:
Yeah, you can create every kind of 3d object with Blender

Want an hangar with open Doors? Add a cube and scale It to the size of your hangar,
add two loop cuts,
scale them on the "long" size,
Delete the face between the 2 loop cuts
Add a solidify modifier and apply
Add your texture, export and Place in the Sim, boom, you have and hangar with the "Door" open (missing Door Indeed)
You can enter the hangar or Place a static plane inside

Instedad, If you are looking for a way to open an hangar Door in the Sim (aka trigger an animation)
...It Is nearly impossible..at the moment,
Hope Asobo add a way to do such wonders we have in previous sims

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I don't want to put a static aircraft in hangar! I meant that after landing at the airport You will be able to park inside the hangar!

mamu · 1 Sep 2021

You can enter the hangar and park there, Just leave some space in your hangar [emoji14]
Unless you Place some collision materials you can enter every 3d object and you Will not crash

An example for you, i can't Remember if i Place even a start position inside the Hagar, but Is possible!

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dariush · 1 Sep 2021

mamu said:
You can enter the hangar and park there, Just leave some space in your hangar [emoji14]
Unless you Place some collision materials you can enter every 3d object and you Will not crash

An example for you, i can't Remember if i Place even a start position inside the Hagar, but Is possible!

LIDU Carpi Budrione Airport - Italy per Microsoft Flight Simulator | MSFS

✓ LIDU Carpi Budrione Airport - Italy è un mod di Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 creato da mamu82. Explore the charming LIDU Carpi Budrione Airport in Italy with this MSFS 2020 add-on. Enjoy a realistic recreation featuring handcrafted buildings, custom lighting, and animated beacon. Enhance...

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Have fun!

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could you make a different size of hangars and make it as a hangar library! I believe all the simmers would love it! Is there any tutorial video for doing this?

=rk= · 2 Sep 2021

mamu said:
An example for you, i can't Remember if i Place even a start position inside the Hagar, but Is possible!

Starts must be on runways. Perhaps you mean a ramp parking spot, which one can start from.

dariush · 2 Sep 2021

mamu said:
You can enter the hangar and park there, Just leave some space in your hangar [emoji14]
Unless you Place some collision materials you can enter every 3d object and you Will not crash

An example for you, i can't Remember if i Place even a start position inside the Hagar, but Is possible!

LIDU Carpi Budrione Airport - Italy per Microsoft Flight Simulator | MSFS

✓ LIDU Carpi Budrione Airport - Italy è un mod di Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 creato da mamu82. Explore the charming LIDU Carpi Budrione Airport in Italy with this MSFS 2020 add-on. Enjoy a realistic recreation featuring handcrafted buildings, custom lighting, and animated beacon. Enhance...

it.flightsim.to

Have fun!

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Is there a tutorial video for this purpose?

mamu · 2 Sep 2021

Not really modelling an open hangar, but a good One to get started!

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Christian Bahr · 2 Sep 2021

mamu said:
Instedad, If you are looking for a way to open an hangar Door in the Sim (aka trigger an animation)
...It Is nearly impossible..at the moment,
Hope Asobo add a way to do such wonders we have in previous sims

Hi. There are no miracles in a flight simulator. But there are realities

One of these realities created by the Asobo developers is the possibility of triggering an animation depending on the distance of the animated object. This very short demonstration video shows how the gates of a hangar open and close again - depending on the distance from the user aircraft:

PS: Please ignore the hunter stand that can be seen in the video. It only served as a test object for another idea.

GaryGB · 2 Sep 2021

Hi Christian:

I love the 'Zombie' Marshallers. :laughing:

We are able to trigger animations on objects separate from the user aircraft in versions of FS prior to MSFS 2020 by several methods.

But, as you may know, prior thread(s) here attempting to trigger door animation on a Hangar SimObject in MSFS were only partially successful.

MSFS20 - Non-looping SimObject animation

Does anyone have an example of a scenery SimObject that does not loop? What is the required xml to halt the animation at a specific keyframe?

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MSFS20 - Add Custom SimObject to ADE20 / MSFS DevMode pick-list

Hi Dick: I am trying to better understand how this object: https://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/resources/msfs-simple-animated-hangar.268/ ...can successfully be made available for placement as a SimObject to 'test' via ADE_Alpha-19 in "2-way edit mode". I have added a COPY of the entire...

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MSFS20 - Here's how to write you own ModelBehavior code.

a582_TailWheel (A:RUDDER DEFLECTION PCT,percent) 110 + 210 ANIM_NAME is the name of your animation part in your modeling program. ANIM_CODE is any XML code you like. ANIM_LENGTH is ... do I really need to explain this one? ASOBO_GT_Anim_Code is at the core of just about every...

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Would you please be so kind as to tell us which method you used in your demo video ? :scratchch

Many thanks in advance for sharing your insight and work-flow with us for this process.

GaryGB

Mikea.at · 2 Sep 2021

=rk= said:
Starts must be on runways. Perhaps you mean a ramp parking spot, which one can start from.

You can place the runway starts off the runway too. I do this and place them at the holding lines.

mamu · 2 Sep 2021

Christian Bahr said:
Hi. There are no miracles in a flight simulator. But there are realities

One of these realities created by the Asobo developers is the possibility of triggering an animation depending on the distance of the animated object. This very short demonstration video shows how the gates of a hangar open and close again - depending on the distance from the user aircraft:

PS: Please ignore the hunter stand that can be seen in the video. It only served as a test object for another idea.

Lots of great information on this topic!

I tried triggering animations in the early sdk releases without luck, using the old vars we used from previous version (nav_lights and so on)

If you have a solution, can you please share It with us?

Showcasing only doesn't help

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Christian Bahr · 2 Sep 2021

GaryGB said:
Would you please be so kind as to tell us which method you used in your demo video ?

Hi Garry.

First of all, the hangar is a Simobject and the animation it contains is a simple keyframe animation. So nothing special. What is special, however, is the method with which the gates are triggered. The key word here is WebAsseblyModul, or WASM for short. The control code itself is rather clear, but not the code of the WASM module! A developer wrote the module for me and, unlike me, he is very familiar with programming in C++. I would like to share my knowledge about this, but the subject is probably complex. Basically I just wanted to make it clear that it is quite possible to trigger an animation depending on the distance of the user aircraft :wizard:

=rk= · 2 Sep 2021

Hmmm, sounds kind of proprietary. Which is fine, not like I’ve never been there before, although my proprietary stuff is usually no more sophisticated than my own visage on models.

Maybe you could offer a link to this devs public contact page, or ask them to weigh in here?

I have an animation of a flying pie and I’d love to place it to be thrown in the face of anyone that looks too critically into my scenery.

Actually I want to activate deck crew for flight operations.
Also I am a bit of a code cipher, if you didn’t mind offering up what you have..

=rk= · 3 Sep 2021

Mikea.at said:
You can place the runway starts off the runway too. I do this and place them at the holding lines.

Yes, I probably was thinking runways must have starts. With that caveat and in previous versions of the sim, I never saw a need to add more, as a parking designator provides ancillary detail and is equally as easy to select. That continues through MSFS, I mean, you can sort of punch at an airport from the stratosphere and it will usually put you on a runway start, but one can't pick a consistent primary "start," as MSFS does not recognize that parameter, so picking a hangar start, would be the same procedure as picking a ramp, gate, dock, custom, etc.

AI won't use starts. You could use a start for a "home" hangar, the AI will never be there when you spawn, but they might be there when you get home, if it is a standard parking spot. I only develop, so the idea of returning to hangars, or even using one, is foreign to me.

Christian Bahr · 4 Sep 2021

=rk= said:
Maybe you could offer a link to this devs public contact page, or ask them to weigh in here?

I'm not sure if he's represented here in the forum.

I was concerned with this statement:

mamu said:
Instedad, If you are looking for a way to open an hangar Door in the Sim (aka trigger an animation)
...It Is nearly impossible..at the moment,

The statement was not correct, because it is possible to open and close a hangar door depending on the distance of the user aircraft. I didn't really want to say more

rhumbaflappy · 14 Jan 2022

I'm sure a WASM gauge is the right way to trigger the door opening animation by proximity. But unless a short tutorial is given, most of us won't be able to understand the process. WASM allows the use of simconnect-type actions and data as I understand it. You should be able to grab the location of the sim-object and the user aircraft, and then trigger the animation if a condition of distance is true.

I had thought the marshaller xml code would work, but it escapes me. There is A:MARSHALLER AIRCRAFT DISTANCE DIRECTION Z PARKINGSPACE, METERS and also A:MARSHALLER AIRCRAFT DISTANCE, METERS but I haven't been able to make them work in an XML.

Christian Bahr · 15 Jan 2022

Dick, I took your last post as an opportunity to delve into the animation possibilities of the MSFS again.

For the first time I managed to link two different animations to weather conditions without much effort an without any WASM animation controller:

In the video you can see that the elevated stand plays the animation "Freeze" in normal weather: The Hunter Stand remains standing.
If you move the slider in the weather menu to precipitation, the "Collapse" animation starts: The Hunter Stand collapses.

I beg your indulgence if I don't immediately come out with the information on how this works. But once the scenery I'm currently working on is released, I'm more than willing to spill the beans :wizard:

marcoh · 29 Jan 2022

I've done a hangar with 6 doors based on SimpleHangar from RumbaFlappy. Thanks to you again

I can't slow down the movement of doors. In documentation, they saids the line of code Animation control the speed. 0.5 of alf speed and 2 for double speed.

<DefaultState name="Yeu_hangar-aerogare_mhg_Close"/>
<BlendTreeState name="Yeu_hangar-aerogare_mhg_Close">
<Animations>
<Animation guid="A30AB0CF-D301-4687-B81C-E3DE54E39761" loop="False" speed="0.05"/>

I've tried many values from 3 to 0.05 and the speed is always same.

What's i'm doing wrong ? Is the lenght of animation in Blender matters ? In my case it's 500.

fabs79 · 30 Jan 2022

marcoh said:
I've done a hangar with 6 doors based on SimpleHangar from RumbaFlappy. Thanks to you again

I can't slow down the movement of doors. In documentation, they saids the line of code Animation control the speed. 0.5 of alf speed and 2 for double speed.

<DefaultState name="Yeu_hangar-aerogare_mhg_Close"/>
<BlendTreeState name="Yeu_hangar-aerogare_mhg_Close">
<Animations>
<Animation guid="A30AB0CF-D301-4687-B81C-E3DE54E39761" loop="False" speed="0.05"/>

I've tried many values from 3 to 0.05 and the speed is always same.

What's i'm doing wrong ? Is the lenght of animation in Blender matters ? In my case it's 500.

Yes of course the animation length matters. I think the standard frame rate at which animations are played is 25 per second, so a 500 frame animation should take 20 seconds to complete, a 5000 frame animation would take 200 seconds.

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