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Spiral Ramp Parking Deck
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OK, first of all, the "Blue Bar" is the Title Bar of the Sketchup application Task Session as it runs in Windows.
Edit your Sketchup 2017 shortcut Properties, and set Compatibility / Security for All users to "Run As Administrator", and launch Sketchup with it.
If that does not change the reported issue, we must test if there are rare coding conflicts which 'can' occur between misc. plugins installed to Sketchup.
With Sketchup not running, ZIP all files / folders in Sketchup 2017 plugins folder into (1) ZIP, then delete all except these 'original' loose files / folders:
\ _jhs01_powerbar.rb (file)
\ JHS (folder)
Then run Sketchup 2017 to test only that (1) Plugin.
If you have further issues with that (1) plugin, let me know.
GaryGB
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Hi Gary,
I've tried everything you've posted and it has not resolve the issue. But I do have some information. I got to thinking about this so I thought I would give it a try. I exploded the curve so that I was able to select 1, 2, or 3 segments at a time without selecting all of them. At first, I selected 1 segment and the ramp extruded immediately. So I tried selecting 3 segments and it extruded all 3, but it took a few seconds. Here's a screenshot:
So I tried more segments, and the more I selected, the longer it takes. After selecting about 10 or more segments, it stops responding and takes way too long. I should be able to select all segments and it should extrude all of them in a split second. I hope this will give some idea about what's going on.
Ken.
I've tried everything you've posted and it has not resolve the issue. But I do have some information. I got to thinking about this so I thought I would give it a try. I exploded the curve so that I was able to select 1, 2, or 3 segments at a time without selecting all of them. At first, I selected 1 segment and the ramp extruded immediately. So I tried selecting 3 segments and it extruded all 3, but it took a few seconds. Here's a screenshot:
So I tried more segments, and the more I selected, the longer it takes. After selecting about 10 or more segments, it stops responding and takes way too long. I should be able to select all segments and it should extrude all of them in a split second. I hope this will give some idea about what's going on.
Ken.
That is an intriguing and innovative approach to troubleshooting this scenario. 
This is in some ways a modified procedure that might otherwise be compared to one utilized by FollowMe-And-Keep (aka "FAK") which was also temperamental, and could be 'helped' to complete an extrusion guide path along a polyline manually in stages where segmentation occurred on that polyline.
I'll need to think about this, as I refresh my memory regarding that earlier plugin by "wikii" from Sketchup version 8 era (not sure if it runs in 2017 Make):
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-m&q=Sketchup plugin FollowMe-And-Keep#lfId=ChxjMe
https://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=FAK
I probably shall test that FollowMe-And-Keep plugin for compatibility in 2017 Make.
This discussion thread suggests that "FAK" still works in Sketchup versions since 2017, but may benefit from an extra process of Scaling up- before running it, then Scaling down- after running it:
https://community.sketchucation.com/post/1568001
Reading backwards through that [More Info] discussion thread for FAK, questions are raised as to IMHO 'BS' imposed onto Sketchup some years ago, that attempts to facilitate registration of end user installation info via Sketchucation by prioritizing "signed" versus 'un-signed' plugins that preceded subsequent and more extensive promotion of payware plugins via Sketchucation Plugin Store.
To be clear, one can still run older and otherwise freeware plugins as 'un-signed', but one may need to manually toggle their status to "Enabled" in:
Sketchup Menu > Window > Extension Manager
...to allow such plugins to be run even if they are NOT "signed".
Check the status of JHS Powerbar in your 2017 Extension Manager, to ensure it is "Enabled" to run even if NOT "signed".
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BTW:
Just out of curiosity, I also installed FollowMe-And-Keep (FAK) into 2017, which worked, and did so without any manual assistance completing the extrude path of the spiral ramp.
So IIUC, you could use FollowMe-And-Keep in 2017 after making a smooth (non-aliased) helix path and guide Face object ...as would also be done if used with JHS_Powerbar's Upright Extruder (Eneroth3).
If you install 2017 JHS-Powerbar fixed 2.4 over 2019, no need to remove the 2019 loose JHS-Powerbar *.rb and sub-folder from Sketchup 2017 \plugins sub-folder.
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GaryGB
This is in some ways a modified procedure that might otherwise be compared to one utilized by FollowMe-And-Keep (aka "FAK") which was also temperamental, and could be 'helped' to complete an extrusion guide path along a polyline manually in stages where segmentation occurred on that polyline.
I'll need to think about this, as I refresh my memory regarding that earlier plugin by "wikii" from Sketchup version 8 era (not sure if it runs in 2017 Make):
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-m&q=Sketchup plugin FollowMe-And-Keep#lfId=ChxjMe
https://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=FAK
I probably shall test that FollowMe-And-Keep plugin for compatibility in 2017 Make.
This discussion thread suggests that "FAK" still works in Sketchup versions since 2017, but may benefit from an extra process of Scaling up- before running it, then Scaling down- after running it:
https://community.sketchucation.com/post/1568001
Reading backwards through that [More Info] discussion thread for FAK, questions are raised as to IMHO 'BS' imposed onto Sketchup some years ago, that attempts to facilitate registration of end user installation info via Sketchucation by prioritizing "signed" versus 'un-signed' plugins that preceded subsequent and more extensive promotion of payware plugins via Sketchucation Plugin Store.
To be clear, one can still run older and otherwise freeware plugins as 'un-signed', but one may need to manually toggle their status to "Enabled" in:
Sketchup Menu > Window > Extension Manager
...to allow such plugins to be run even if they are NOT "signed".
Check the status of JHS Powerbar in your 2017 Extension Manager, to ensure it is "Enabled" to run even if NOT "signed".
[EDITED]
BTW:
Just out of curiosity, I also installed FollowMe-And-Keep (FAK) into 2017, which worked, and did so without any manual assistance completing the extrude path of the spiral ramp.
So IIUC, you could use FollowMe-And-Keep in 2017 after making a smooth (non-aliased) helix path and guide Face object ...as would also be done if used with JHS_Powerbar's Upright Extruder (Eneroth3).
If you install 2017 JHS-Powerbar fixed 2.4 over 2019, no need to remove the 2019 loose JHS-Powerbar *.rb and sub-folder from Sketchup 2017 \plugins sub-folder.
[END_EDIT]
GaryGB
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Hi Ken:
I tested the above linked FollowMe-and-Keep plugin with Sketchup 2017 Make.
It works properly for me without a need for scaling, or manual assistance at polyline vertices.
https://community.sketchucation.com/topic/109810/plugin-followme-and-keep-v0-04-update-20090210/2
GaryGB
I tested the above linked FollowMe-and-Keep plugin with Sketchup 2017 Make.
It works properly for me without a need for scaling, or manual assistance at polyline vertices.
https://community.sketchucation.com/topic/109810/plugin-followme-and-keep-v0-04-update-20090210/2
GaryGB
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I installed the FollowMe-andKeep plugin and it gives the exact same problem. But when I use the Follow Me Tool in Sketchup, it works fine, but it's twisted out of shape.
Ken.
Please browse to:
C:\Program Files\SketchUp\SketchUp 2017\SketchUp.exe > Right-click > Properties > {Details} tab > File version value field.
Post your numeric version of Sketchup in a reply here or in a Direct Message to me.
Also please state what version of Windows you are running on your computer.
GaryGB
C:\Program Files\SketchUp\SketchUp 2017\SketchUp.exe > Right-click > Properties > {Details} tab > File version value field.
Post your numeric version of Sketchup in a reply here or in a Direct Message to me.
Also please state what version of Windows you are running on your computer.
GaryGB
Hi Gary,
By the way, I have Sketchup installed in C:\Sketchup. I try to stay away from Program Files and Program Files(x86). Just want to let you know in case that may be a factor.
The Value for the File version field is 17.2.2555.0.
I am running Windows 10 Pro version 22H2
Ken.
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I have tested both the above cited plugins with (2) different numeric versions of Sketchup 2017, and they work properly in each numeric version.
I shall need to research further why this issue may be occurring on your particular Sketchup 2017 installation.
GaryGB
I shall need to research further why this issue may be occurring on your particular Sketchup 2017 installation.
GaryGB
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See our current DM thread; my copies of the rb. (and yours ...as attached) did not show a need for a cited 'fix', so I'm not certain it is completely "fixed".
But I'm glad you have it working.
Please let us know if you start incurring crashes of Sketchup a few seconds / minutes after running that plugin.
GaryGB
But I'm glad you have it working.
Please let us know if you start incurring crashes of Sketchup a few seconds / minutes after running that plugin.
GaryGB
See our current DM thread; my copies of the rb. (and yours ...as attached) did not show a need for a cited 'fix', so I'm not certain it is completely "fixed".
But I'm glad you have it working.
Please let us know if you start incurring crashes of Sketchup a few seconds / minutes after running that plugin.
GaryGB
So far, it's working just fine. See the image below:
DO NOT USE ANY OTHER VERSION OF JHS POWERBAR WITH SKETCHUP MAKE 2017
(THE FIXED VERSION FOR 2019 DOES NOT WORK WITH SKETCHUP MAKE 2017
PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT TO EDIT RUBY SCRIPT CODE FOR PLUGINS)
Eneroth3 Upright Extruder Procedure: As easy as 1-2-3:
1.) Explode all of the spiral and the ramp Face objects in your current project file
2.) Select only the spiral and the ramp Face objects (do not select the Edges of the intended ramp object shape guide template's Face)
3.) On JHS Powerbar icon toolbar:
Click: icon # 7 from the toolbar's Left end (ToolTip pop-up help text label = Upright Extruder (Eneroth)
If you have further issues with this plugin, let me know.
Sketchup is being 'monetized' by Trimble, and most of their efforts now only promote use of newer payware / plugin versions.
JHS_Powerbar and Eneroth3 Upright Extruder are freeware, but Extension Warehouse does not list 2017 plugins.
However, Sketchucation continues to list versions seen in the Plugin Store if "All" plugins by Max Coppola are displayed.
The correct choice is JHS POWERBAR 2015 (Fixed for 2017) v2.4 ...as I stated above.
GaryGB
Although you did start this thread, I still adapted my replies to accommodate both you and the greater number of other Sketchup users who may read this.
I am glad you now have a version of the JHS_Powerbar plugin working.
However, I do not have the time free to sort out what is different about your installation of 2017.
Assuming you have entirely removed all files / folders from the Sketchup 2017 \Plugins sub-folder prior to installing the above cited 2017 fixed 2.4 JHS_Powerbar plugin, I consider it likely that you have incurred a divergence in your Ruby run time code base version which is installed elsewhere outside the \Plugins sub-folder, that causes Sketchup to function differently on your installation than it does on mine.
I shall stand by my recommendations in my post immediately above for other Sketchup 2017 users to try, and I do not encourage anyone but an experienced coder attempting to edit Ruby scripting code.
I consider it likely that most 2017 users will be better served by following my recommendations above.
GaryGB
I am glad you now have a version of the JHS_Powerbar plugin working.
However, I do not have the time free to sort out what is different about your installation of 2017.
Assuming you have entirely removed all files / folders from the Sketchup 2017 \Plugins sub-folder prior to installing the above cited 2017 fixed 2.4 JHS_Powerbar plugin, I consider it likely that you have incurred a divergence in your Ruby run time code base version which is installed elsewhere outside the \Plugins sub-folder, that causes Sketchup to function differently on your installation than it does on mine.
I shall stand by my recommendations in my post immediately above for other Sketchup 2017 users to try, and I do not encourage anyone but an experienced coder attempting to edit Ruby scripting code.
I consider it likely that most 2017 users will be better served by following my recommendations above.
GaryGB
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