Tree density

[utd4life]

Hi

Is there anyway to increase the forest/tree density so that the forests look fuller? Also anyway to change which tree textures are used for the forests?

Many thanks

Dan

 

[arno]

Hi,

Polygonal vegetation is not so dense. If you use rectangular vegetation instead with point features placed in the polygon you can make it more dense.

Changing the tree texture would require to use new model (or replace the global tree texture).

 

[utd4life]

Hi,

Polygonal vegetation is not so dense. If you use rectangular vegetation instead with point features placed in the polygon you can make it more dense.

Changing the tree texture would require to use new model (or replace the global tree texture).

Hi thanks, can I find how to do this in the manual?

 

[arno]

You can use the PolygonToPoint step to place the points. And then in the CreateAGNRectVeg step you select these points with the filter.

 

[utd4life]

You can use the PolygonToPoint step to place the points. And then in the CreateAGNRectVeg step you select these points with the filter.

So to confirm I would need to add to my config the follwing?

PolygonToPoint|type="forest"|INSIDE|0.001;0.001|0.25;0.0|String;type|tree|hdg

and

CreateAGNRectVeg|landuse="forest"|{c9dc45ae-f240-42a9-a137-b7617452a308}

Many thanks

 

[arno]

In the CreateAGNRectVeg step you should use type="tree" as filter, since that is the attribute you assigned to the points you made.

 

[utd4life]

Changing the tree texture would require to use new model (or replace the global tree texture).

Hi, many thanks for your help with the tree density. How exactly would I go about using a new model or replacing the texture? If you could point me in the right direction that would be great!

Thank you.

 

[utd4life]

For example I have Orbx trees installed in my P3D, would it be possible to use those Orbx trees?

 

[arno]

Hi,

I don't know how Orbx does their trees, it might be that they replace the default trees or they could also have made their own autogen definitions for them. In the last case you could use them in your scenery, but only if you don't intend to share the wrok with others.

If you want to make your own models, expect that is quite some work, as there are different models for tree heigth, tree types, seasons, etc. So that are quite some models to make.

Replacing the default tree texture is easier, but that would affect all sceneries globally that use the same trees.

 

[utd4life]

Hi,

I don't know how Orbx does their trees, it might be that they replace the default trees or they could also have made their own autogen definitions for them. In the last case you could use them in your scenery, but only if you don't intend to share the wrok with others.

If you want to make your own models, expect that is quite some work, as there are different models for tree heigth, tree types, seasons, etc. So that are quite some models to make.

Replacing the default tree texture is easier, but that would affect all sceneries globally that use the same trees.

Hi there, many thanks for your reply.

I would not intent to share the work with others.

Do you know where I would locate the default tree textures in order to replace them?

Many thanks

 

[arno]

If you load the default vegetation.bgl file in ModelConverterX you can see which textures are used by each tree model.

 

[Armas212236]

Hi Arno!
I'm also trying to "convert" Polygon To Point but seems that it doesn't work since i get this "12:25 PolygonToPoint Information Created 0 point features"

I have missed something?

PolygonToPoint|type="forest"|INSIDE|0.001;0.001|0.25;0.0|String;type|tree|hdg
PolygonToPoint|type="park"|INSIDE|0.001;0.001|0.25;0.0|String;type|tree|hdg
CreateAGNRectVeg|type="tree"|{e8b937fd-a1f2-4bd5-8548-2c80d30102af}
CreateAGNRectVeg|type="tree"|{e8b937fd-a1f2-4bd5-8548-2c80d30102af}

 

[MatthiasKNU]

There's another function for that:
ReplacePolygonByVegetationRectangles|filter|size|overlap|random

i.e.:
# a size of 0.0001 gives you wonderfull dense forests...
ReplacePolygonByVegetationRectangles|type="forest"|0.0001|0|1

And then you can continue with:
CreateAGNRectVeg|type="forest"|{e8b937fd-a1f2-4bd5-8548-2c80d30102af}

 

[Armas212236]

Thank you @MatthiasKNU , it works now but i had to change type to fclass.

 

[MatthiasKNU]

Thank you @MatthiasKNU , it works now but i had to change type to fclass.

The filter depends on your input data...
OSM-date usually has an attribute "fclass"...

 

[arno]

Hi,

The ReplacePolygonByVegetationRectangles step makes polygons, the PolygonToPoint step makes point features. I typically use the last in my scripts. If you use fclass there as well I guess it will work.

The exact attributes depend on the data you use. fclass is not something that OSM XML/PBF data typically has. But some SHP dumps of OSM data use that attribute indeed.

 

[utd4life]

There's another function for that:
ReplacePolygonByVegetationRectangles|filter|size|overlap|random

i.e.:
# a size of 0.0001 gives you wonderfull dense forests...
ReplacePolygonByVegetationRectangles|type="forest"|0.0001|0|1

And then you can continue with:
CreateAGNRectVeg|type="forest"|{e8b937fd-a1f2-4bd5-8548-2c80d30102af}

Hi,

Would you be so kind as to share your scenproc config file?

 

[MatthiasKNU]

Well, I don't have "the one" ScenProc file.
When I create the autogen, I always create different config files so that it looks the best in the end...

 

[utd4life]

Well, I don't have "the one" ScenProc file.
When I create the autogen, I always create different config files so that it looks the best in the end...

Ah okay, no problem. I use your autogen you've kindly shared so far. But I've been trying to do some areas such as Portugal and can generally get buildings and forests to be ok, but just struggle for anything after that which is why I asked.