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FS9 Default SABA airport altitude

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I have been trying to use ADE (I only installed it yesterday) to change the altitude of SABA from the incorrect 15' to 128' as per Google Earth and the FS9 scenery package saba2004.zip by Franceso Romeo and Rainer Labie. Although FSNav shows the airport at 128' several gauges I have ie SALS and Descentometer by Glenn Copeland continue to show the airport at 15' elevation. Therefore I cannot depend on these gauges.
I have changed the altitude in ADE to 128' but when I try to compile the project I get the following Error message. :mad: :confused:

ScruffyDuck Scenery Design Engine Compiling
Using BglComp....

INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR C1003: Failed to create MSXML object! (0x80040154)

Parsing document: F:\Programs\FS Design Tools\Airport Design Editor 9x\FS9\Work\SABA_ADE9_BJ.xml

ERROR C2470: Unrecoverable error parsing XML!
ERROR C2006: Parse failed (0x80004005)
ERROR C2003: Failed to process file: F:\Programs\FS Design Tools\Airport Design Editor 9x\FS9\Work\SABA_ADE9_BJ.xml


I would be grateful if someone could show me where I am going wrong as the Issue Manager indicates "No Issues"!

Thanks :)
 
It sounds to me like you do not have MSXML 4 installed or it is not installed correctly.

This is a long thread but it covers much of the issues related to this problem: http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73172

There is a tool shipped with ADE called ADE Environment Checker. It is accessible from the ADE9x entry in the Start > All Programs. If you run this it will tell you if you have MSXML 4 installed at all.
 
brianj said:
I have been trying to use ADE (I only installed it yesterday) to change the altitude of SABA from the incorrect 15' to 128' as per Google Earth and the FS9 scenery package saba2004.zip by Franceso Romeo and Rainer Labie. Although FSNav shows the airport at 128' several gauges I have ie SALS and Descentometer by Glenn Copeland continue to show the airport at 15' elevation. Therefore I cannot depend on these gauges.
I have changed the altitude in ADE to 128' but when I try to compile the project I get the following Error message. :mad: :confused:

ScruffyDuck Scenery Design Engine Compiling
Using BglComp....

INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR C1003: Failed to create MSXML object! (0x80040154)

Parsing document: F:\Programs\FS Design Tools\Airport Design Editor 9x\FS9\Work\SABA_ADE9_BJ.xml

ERROR C2470: Unrecoverable error parsing XML!
ERROR C2006: Parse failed (0x80004005)
ERROR C2003: Failed to process file: F:\Programs\FS Design Tools\Airport Design Editor 9x\FS9\Work\SABA_ADE9_BJ.xml


I would be grateful if someone could show me where I am going wrong as the Issue Manager indicates "No Issues"!

Thanks :)
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When you get the ADE airport to compile (as per Jon's post) many gauges will still read the altitude wrong. Altitude adjustment is made and placed in the world scenery folder so it reads before Africa loads. Some gauges can only read the default AP9 bgl where the original airport altitude is coded.

FSNav could very well show the airport altitude at 128' if it reads the code from the ADE airport file that is placed above all the default airport scenery directorys.
 
I did have MSXML 4.0 installed but I uninstalled it and reinstalled MSXML 4.0 Service Pack 3 from Microsoft download center. Unfortunately I still cannot compile the ADE SABA Airport altitude change (same errors as before).
In view of Jim's post my efforts may be futile anyway if the gauges continue to read the original wrong altitude from the default AP9 bgl.
Thanks Jon and Jim for your prompt replies.
If you can think of anything else I could try to be able to compile this ADE project I would be grateful.

Brian :confused:
 
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Do you have EditVoicePack installed - if so that causes problems with MSXML4. The thread I referred you to deals with this issue.

Please attach your project file (.ad3 extension) to a post here so that we can check it out on our systems.
 
Yes I did have EditVoicePack installed but I removed it and tried to compile the Airport project again but I continue to get the same error's.
As requested I attach SABA_ADE9_BJ.ad3
Brian
 

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Jon, Further to my post of a few minutes ago I realize that the thread you referred me to is 4 pages long! I only read the first page which did not resolve the problem. I will now read the entire post. Brian :o
 
Hi Brian,
Try this: remove everything except from the ARP within the SABA scenery. Rebuild the Airport as a new airport with the ICAO location indicator TNCS then.

Hope this will solve your problem!

And don' t forget to remove the redundant alt-files from the world scenery folder.
 
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Solved!

I can now compile with AIRPORT DESIGN EDITOR. :rotfl:

My OS is Windows XP. First I uninstalled MSXML 4.0 SP3.
Upon checking the WINDOWS/System32 folder I found that the two dll files msxml.dll and msxmlr.dll had not been removed. I renamed these two dll files by adding .xxx to the end.

I then ran CCleaner to clean the registry and reinstalled MSXML 4.0 SP3.

Checking the WINDOWS/System32 folder I found two new msxml.dll and msxmlr.dll files had been installed. The new msxml.dll file was a differnt size and an earlier date than the one I had renamed.

I started ADE and when I compiled my SABA altitude project it worked! BGLComp.exe also now works when I drag an XML file onto it.

Thanks to Jon for the link to Arcuell's thread (and to Arcuell for his persistence in solving this problem).

Unfortunately even though ADE is now compiling my altitude fix did not work. As Jim indicated my gauges continue to indicate the original wrong altitude. I fixed this by decompiling the AP9 bgl in the FS9 Scenery folder changing the altude and recompiling with BGLComp.exe. I also did this with the AF_SABA.bgl I had recently installed.

I realize that SABA airport may not be at the exact altitude of 128 ft. but I made it 128 ft. because my addon scenery saba2004 is set at this altitude.

Many web sites show various altitudes for SABA. Wikipedia shows 60 ft (as pointed out by Kevintama5) and other sites have 105 to 110 ft. Google Earth has an altitude of 128 ft at Rwy 12 TD with a slope to 86 ft at Rwy 30 TD.

Thanks to all who posted for your help. :):):D
Brian
 
ADE changes the altitude of the airport via Tools > Change Airport Altitude. This creates a pre-load Bgl file that is needed to change airport altitudes.

If you just changed the altitude in Airport Properties then it will not work.

If you did not use the Tools function to change the altitude then you should. Modifying the stock file is neither recommended nor necessary.

If you did use this tool then make sure that the ALT bgl file is in ..\scenery\world\scenery
 
Hi Jon,
Yes I did use the Tools function to change the altitude and it was placed in the FS9\scenery\world\scenery folder.
Even so, my gauges continued to read the stock airport altitude default AP9 bgl. I had no choice but to modify the AP9 bgl to get everything reading the same altitude. I see that many Scenery Developers modify default stock bgl's with their senery packages.
Thanks for ADE (a great program).
Regards Brian
 
Hmmm - well this is the first report I have of the change altitude not working.

I am also surprised that many people change stock files - this has the potential to lead to terrible chaos.
 
Actually VERY few people change the stock AP files, and they should not be doing so.
 
OK I get the message!

I reinstalled the original AP9 bgl file, ran FS9 and found that my gauges continued to read the new altitude. So it must have been the AF2_SABA.bgl file that I modified that had been set at the wrong altitude. :o

Brian
 
brianj said:
OK I get the message!

I reinstalled the original AP9 bgl file, ran FS9 and found that my gauges continued to read the new altitude. So it must have been the AF2_SABA.bgl file that I modified that had been set at the wrong altitude. :o

Brian
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Good to know it is working now :)
 
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