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Will you get the waves to wash over the decks in a storm??
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the ship can respond to the wind directions in fsx ?¡¡ time ago I sail a Little with a sail boat and though the wind gauge could indicate the wind direction the ship sailed as a motor boat , if can be got it would be great.
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Will you get the waves to wash over the decks in a storm??
Of course not. That is a function of FSX/FS9 water and scenery, not of the model.
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Yes, just as with aircraft, the model responds to winds in several ways. The ship will not sail into a head wind. Turning the ship into a head wind meets with resistance. On the other hand, the wind will assist in turning away (downwind) and when she is running ahead of the wind (tail wind) she does so with with vigor.
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I guess we must see the ships as aircrafts, always from that point the of view. there are ship simulators games that would work better in this. but always is funny to sail in fsx a Little.
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This is the absolute best naval water battle simulation effects I have seen. Excellent water/wave action splashing over bow ad sides of ships. Excellent effects. "Naval Action" to be released early 2015.
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Looks like 40 degrees right now as our test point. But remember, the sim sees this as a big, heavy aircraft on floats. I have done things in the FM to give it wind advantages and influences but we are limited there.
Propulsion is a combination of engine and wind. When "running ahead of the wind". she needs less than 10% throttle, just above idle. At Beam Reach, she is mostly engine driven. There is no propulsion by wind in close hauling but she wants to get a bit sideways or veer from tract.
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Bill, thanks for the question from a knowledgeable sailor.
I should add that I have done only preliminary work on the FM as I am still wrapping up the modeling aspects. I am hoping to get more realism out of the wind effects before I complete the FM.My biggest decision now is how best to handle "sail management". Deployed sails sets will be based on wind direction and wind speed and will effect changes in the 3 mast main sails as well as the jibs, spanker, and staysails.
No problem with animating sail yard arms for wind direction; the issue is with running rigging to the yard arm ends and the bottoms of the course sails. Changing angles is one thing; changing rigging lengths another.
Not sure yet how I will approach that one.
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Well, you certainly know how to 'challenge' yourself! As long as the coxswain doesn't get her locked in irons, all should be well.
As an interesting factoid, even a U.S. Navy destroyer managed to screw up royally by getting locked in irons:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Hull_(DD-350)
As an interesting factoid, even a U.S. Navy destroyer managed to screw up royally by getting locked in irons:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Hull_(DD-350)
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Ah, but that is what the aux power plant is for Matey, to avoid such a predicament, especially for a slow square rigger!
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Tom, it is. I can rotate the sale arms 50 degrees off square for a 100 degree max swing with little interference from standing rigging. That sets the close hauled arms at 40 degrees off heading, not really enough to be fruitful. Not sure what the real number should be but likely around 45-50. Fortunately the replica Bounty and this model has diesel aux power to keep us out of the no-go, locked irons issues. And the sea swells cause little problems in FSim.
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My goodness, Milton, thats awesome!
That game looks very interesting.
It would be easy enough to do a Node object that leans under certain conditions, controlled by logic, just like one does an Elevon on a Bonanza. Have the entire ship lean under turns over a certain speed, etc, etc.
That game looks brilliant!
The first thing I thought of was, those giant floating blimp ships from the wild steam punk version of that Three Musketeers movie.
That game looks very interesting.
It would be easy enough to do a Node object that leans under certain conditions, controlled by logic, just like one does an Elevon on a Bonanza. Have the entire ship lean under turns over a certain speed, etc, etc.
That game looks brilliant!
The first thing I thought of was, those giant floating blimp ships from the wild steam punk version of that Three Musketeers movie.
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Bill, I am working on the FM to provide that "lean" naturally as that is always best and feels right. Keep in mind this is a heavy 216 ton plus displacement and avg speed in the RW is 5-6 knots. Under most conditions there is not a lot of leaning going on. Now throw in some serious sub-gale winds, and I have that effect showing. Leaning away from turns is occurring naturally now. And of course, you must manage sails in strong winds to avoid disaster.
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Brilliant! Sounds like you are having a blast.
One of my fave movies of all time is 'Master and Commander'. Not the most roomiest down below unless you had the captains quarters, and even then, most people were shorter then they are now, so they fit in there better.
The day before I saw this, I had seen a photo on Facebook of the back of the Enterprise (sailing ship, USN) that was in the movie Star Trek TNG, one of the movies that starts off on the holodeck on the original Enterprise. The backend was super clear in its structure, looks just like yours. Same curves, everything.
One of my fave movies of all time is 'Master and Commander'. Not the most roomiest down below unless you had the captains quarters, and even then, most people were shorter then they are now, so they fit in there better.
The day before I saw this, I had seen a photo on Facebook of the back of the Enterprise (sailing ship, USN) that was in the movie Star Trek TNG, one of the movies that starts off on the holodeck on the original Enterprise. The backend was super clear in its structure, looks just like yours. Same curves, everything.
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Very interesting Timbo.
Making some progress here having wrapped up modeling and mapping for textures. She's now off to the paint shop while I continue working on the gauges and "flight model".
Here she is in static form with sails properly stowed (not sure that is the correct term).
Making some progress here having wrapped up modeling and mapping for textures. She's now off to the paint shop while I continue working on the gauges and "flight model".
Here she is in static form with sails properly stowed (not sure that is the correct term).
