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MSFS How add a ILS or any NAV to airport?

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Hello guys, i´m making a airport (one of them) no exist in the MSFS, but yes in the real life.

Runway, aprons, gates, jetways....car and a lot objects are ready.

How i can add ILS , NDB or VOR to this one?.
I check almost all post about SDK and scenery creation, but cant find something about ILS or RadioNavs...
Tks in advance.

Fer.
 
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It hasn't been implemented in the SDK yet as far as I know. I am also waiting for this. It may be possible to edit the XML file directly, I followed some instructions here to add the COM frequencies, but I am not sure what the syntax would be for NAV aids.
 
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xr219 said:
but I am not sure what the syntax would be for NAV aids.
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If you want to tinker (while waiting for the ADE beta that will work with MSFS), one option is to open any airport that has the specific type of item in the FSX version of ADE and then compile it with the XML output option active. Then open the XML file in Notepad++. You will see how the XML syntax is formatted for a specific type of item. Then all you need to do is to edit the XML to match what the RL airport has and add the XML code to your airport XML file in your project <ICAO>.XML. For example, here is a typical ILS entry:
XML: 
        <Ils     lat="44.3784084543586"     lon="-74.2150256037712"     alt="506.882M"   heading="214.850006103516"   frequency="108.900"   end="SECONDARY"   range="27.01N"
                  magvar="14.6999998092651"   ident="ISLK"    width="5.43871355056763"   name="ILS 23"   backCourse="TRUE">
            <GlideSlope      lat="44.3929916247725"      lon="-74.2022417485714"      alt="506.882M"      pitch="3"      range="27.01N"/>
        </Ils>
 
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Jay Bloomfield said:
If you want to tinker (while waiting for the ADE beta that will work with MSFS), one option is to open any airport that has the specific type of item in the FSX version of ADE and then compile it with the XML output option active. Then open the XML file in Notepad++. You will see how the XML syntax is formatted for a specific type of item. Then all you need to do is to edit the XML to match what the RL airport has and add the XML code to your airport XML file in your project <ICAO>.XML. For example, here is a typical ILS entry:
XML: 
        <Ils     lat="44.3784084543586"     lon="-74.2150256037712"     alt="506.882M"   heading="214.850006103516"   frequency="108.900"   end="SECONDARY"   range="27.01N"
                  magvar="14.6999998092651"   ident="ISLK"    width="5.43871355056763"   name="ILS 23"   backCourse="TRUE">
            <GlideSlope      lat="44.3929916247725"      lon="-74.2022417485714"      alt="506.882M"      pitch="3"      range="27.01N"/>
        </Ils>
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You the man....tks captain.
 
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@xr219 GlideSlope should work if you enter exactly as above - the MSFS XSD schema seems to match (although I haven't tested a compile). Maybe try pitch="3.0" (although that shouldn't make a difference)?

(I've been doing a bunch of work on XML/XSD/BGL stuff...)
 
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Szpike said:
@xr219 GlideSlope should work if you enter exactly as above - the MSFS XSD schema seems to match (although I haven't tested a compile). Maybe try pitch="3.0" (although that shouldn't make a difference)?

(I've been doing a bunch of work on XML/XSD/BGL stuff...)
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it was copied from the FSX SDK as a test with a 3 degree slope. The compiler threw an error saying it was expecting ilsxxxxxx I can’t remember the variable it was expecting as I forgot to write it down, but it was a new one to me. I’ll try again later.
 
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There is a SimpleNavData project in the 'Samples' folder of the SDK, that has some ILS examples along with a bunch of others ( I have been working on RNAV, although I didn't follow the example in the SimpleNavData but a post here (https://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/creating-rnav-gps-approach.446118/#post-831361)

It's also worth looking at the schema document here - https://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/sdk-reference-scenery-design.448407/

It seems like there is an ILS element:

XML: 
<Ils lat="44.70255557798028" lon="-0.594172903335208" alt="186.75000597599998F" heading="94.2565568340202" frequency="114.6" magvar="0.0" ident="IL00" width="5.0" name="ILS NAME"/>

And an 'Approach' element

XML: 
    <Approach type="ILS" runway="03" fixType="TERMINAL_WAYPOINT" fixRegion="LF" fixIdent="TWT02" altitude="2000.0F" heading="32.17835215228622" missedAltitude="5000.0F">
      <ApproachLegs>
        <Leg type="IF" fixType="WAYPOINT" fixRegion="LF" fixIdent="WPT5B" recommendedType="LOCALIZER" recommendedRegion="LF" recommendedIdent="IL00" theta="274.3" rho="11.3N" altitudeDescriptor="I" altitude1="2000.0F" altitude2="2000.0F"/>
        <Leg type="CF" fixType="TERMINAL_WAYPOINT" fixRegion="LF" fixIdent="TWT02" flyOver="FALSE" recommendedType="LOCALIZER" recommendedRegion="LF" recommendedIdent="IL00" theta="274.3" rho="7.300000000000001N" magneticCourse="307.2435906365321" distance="4.1000000000000005N" altitudeDescriptor="A" altitude1="2000.0F"/>
        <Leg type="CF" fixType="RUNWAY" fixRegion="LF" fixIdent="RW03" flyOver="TRUE" recommendedType="LOCALIZER" recommendedRegion="LF" recommendedIdent="IL00" theta="274.3" rho="1.4000000000000001N" magneticCourse="307.2435906365321" distance="5.9N" altitudeDescriptor="A" altitude1="72.0F"/>
      </ApproachLegs>
      <MissedApproachLegs>
        <Leg type="CA" magneticCourse="95.0" altitudeDescriptor="+" altitude1="5000.0F"/>
        <Leg type="CF" fixType="VOR" fixRegion="LF" fixIdent="VOR08" flyOver="FALSE" recommendedType="VOR" recommendedRegion="LF" recommendedIdent="VOR08" theta="348.40000000000003" rho="1.0N" magneticCourse="332.2435906365321" distance="7.0N" altitudeDescriptor="+" altitude1="5000.0F"/>
        <Leg type="CF" fixType="WAYPOINT" fixRegion="LF" fixIdent="WPT0A" flyOver="FALSE" turnDirection="R" recommendedType="VOR" recommendedRegion="LF" recommendedIdent="VOR08" theta="270.3" rho="1.0N" magneticCourse="120.24359063653206" distance="23.0N" altitudeDescriptor="+" altitude1="5000.0F"/>
        <Leg type="HM" fixType="WAYPOINT" fixRegion="LF" fixIdent="WPT0A" turnDirection="R" magneticCourse="14.121795318266024" time="1.0" altitudeDescriptor="+" altitude1="5000.0F"/>
      </MissedApproachLegs>
      <Transition transitionType="FULL" fixType="TERMINAL_WAYPOINT" fixRegion="LF" fixIdent="TWT02" altitude="2000.0F">
        <TransitionLegs>
          <Leg type="PI" fixType="TERMINAL_WAYPOINT" fixRegion="LF" fixIdent="TWT02" turnDirection="R" recommendedType="VOR" recommendedRegion="LF" recommendedIdent="VOR05" theta="244.10000000000002" rho="1.0N" magneticCourse="82.24359063653206" distance="10.0N" altitudeDescriptor="+" altitude1="2000.0F"/>
          <Leg type="CF" fixType="WAYPOINT" fixRegion="LF" fixIdent="WPT5B" flyOver="FALSE" recommendedType="LOCALIZER" recommendedRegion="LF" recommendedIdent="IL00" theta="274.3" rho="1.0N" magneticCourse="307.2435906365321" distance="2.0N" altitudeDescriptor="+" altitude1="2000.0F"/>
        </TransitionLegs>
      </Transition>
    </Approach>
 
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Thanks @Dooby - Those two above are identical to the FSX SDK, but I'll have a look at the other docs. Appreciate you posting that link :)
 
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Dooby said:
Ah I was under the impression the example with 'Glideslope' above was the FSX format
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Yes you are correct. I need my coffee this morning.

With GlideSlope in, this is the error below. Actually... Its my error. I need Glideslope inside ILS. I'll give that a try. I'm not sure what the IlsReference tag is though.

INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2033: XML Parse Error (line, column, error) ERROR: 705, 107, Element 'GlideSlope' is unexpected according to content model of parent element 'Runway'. Expecting: Ils, IlsReference, RunwayStart, Material. INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2313: GlideSlope MUST be nested inside a Ils! INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2031: Failed element parse <GlideSlope> INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2032: XML Parse Error! Element tree follows: ERROR: <FSData ERROR: version = 9.0 ERROR: > ERROR: <Airport ERROR: city = Thurleigh ERROR: name = RAE Bedford ERROR: ident = EGBF ERROR: lat = 52.23094156254407 ERROR: lon = -0.46160174713115 ERROR: alt = 86.05386632233638 ERROR: magvar = 0.000000 ERROR: trafficScalar = 1.000000 ERROR: airportTestRadius = 2600.00000000000000 ERROR: applyFlatten = TRUE ERROR: isOnTIN = FALSE ERROR: starAirport = TRUE ERROR: > ERROR: <Runway ERROR: lat = 52.23091064754645 ERROR: lon = -0.46174715329814 ERROR: alt = 86.05353384607631 ERROR: heading = 80.52565765380859 ERROR: length = 3207.80859375000000 ERROR: width = 93.64620971679688 ERROR: patternAltitude = 304.79998779296875 ERROR: surface = {0D7DFD04-B3A3-47A9-A710-074276B6DB26} ERROR: transparent = FALSE ERROR: number = 09 ERROR: designator = NONE ERROR: primaryLanding = TRUE ERROR: primaryTakeoff = TRUE ERROR: primaryPattern = LEFT ERROR: secondaryLanding = TRUE ERROR: secondaryTakeoff = TRUE ERROR: secondaryPattern = LEFT ERROR: primaryMarkingBias = 0.00000000000000 ERROR: secondaryMarkingBias = 0.00000000000000 ERROR: groundMerging = TRUE ERROR: excludeVegetationAround = TRUE ERROR: > ERROR: <GlideSlope ERROR: lat = 52.228340 ERROR: lon = -0.487021 ERROR: alt = 86.05353384607631 ERROR: pitch = 3.00 ERROR: range = 20N ERROR: > ERROR: INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2328: Mismatch token end (GlideSlope)! INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2024: Failed to process closing element tag <GlideSlope> near line 705! INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2607: Compilation errors detected, compilation failed! INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2034: XML Parse Fatal Error (line, column, error) ERROR: 1713, 0, Validate failed. INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2430: Unrecoverable error parsing XML! INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2006: Parse failed (0x80004005) PackageBuilder | Skip mirroring due to command failures.
 
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INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2313: GlideSlope MUST be nested inside a Ils!
The example above shows <Ils .....> <GlideSlope /> </Ils>. Did you forget the / inside your GlideSlope tag?
 
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This is the schema for the ILS and the GS is an element with in it. If the XML is calling the GS part of the airport record or something else then that would cause a compiler error

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Hi Jon, yes that's the issue, I just need to check the syntax of how to add it to the ILS element, as the ILS element is already a child of the runway. XML isn't my strong suit
 
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xr219 said:
Yes you are correct. I need my coffee this morning.

With GlideSlope in, this is the error below. Actually... Its my error. I need Glideslope inside ILS. I'll give that a try. I'm not sure what the IlsReference tag is though.

INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2033: XML Parse Error (line, column, error) ERROR: 705, 107, Element 'GlideSlope' is unexpected according to content model of parent element 'Runway'. Expecting: Ils, IlsReference, RunwayStart, Material. INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2313: GlideSlope MUST be nested inside a Ils! INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2031: Failed element parse <GlideSlope> INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2032: XML Parse Error! Element tree follows: ERROR: <FSData ERROR: version = 9.0 ERROR: > ERROR: <Airport ERROR: city = Thurleigh ERROR: name = RAE Bedford ERROR: ident = EGBF ERROR: lat = 52.23094156254407 ERROR: lon = -0.46160174713115 ERROR: alt = 86.05386632233638 ERROR: magvar = 0.000000 ERROR: trafficScalar = 1.000000 ERROR: airportTestRadius = 2600.00000000000000 ERROR: applyFlatten = TRUE ERROR: isOnTIN = FALSE ERROR: starAirport = TRUE ERROR: > ERROR: <Runway ERROR: lat = 52.23091064754645 ERROR: lon = -0.46174715329814 ERROR: alt = 86.05353384607631 ERROR: heading = 80.52565765380859 ERROR: length = 3207.80859375000000 ERROR: width = 93.64620971679688 ERROR: patternAltitude = 304.79998779296875 ERROR: surface = {0D7DFD04-B3A3-47A9-A710-074276B6DB26} ERROR: transparent = FALSE ERROR: number = 09 ERROR: designator = NONE ERROR: primaryLanding = TRUE ERROR: primaryTakeoff = TRUE ERROR: primaryPattern = LEFT ERROR: secondaryLanding = TRUE ERROR: secondaryTakeoff = TRUE ERROR: secondaryPattern = LEFT ERROR: primaryMarkingBias = 0.00000000000000 ERROR: secondaryMarkingBias = 0.00000000000000 ERROR: groundMerging = TRUE ERROR: excludeVegetationAround = TRUE ERROR: > ERROR: <GlideSlope ERROR: lat = 52.228340 ERROR: lon = -0.487021 ERROR: alt = 86.05353384607631 ERROR: pitch = 3.00 ERROR: range = 20N ERROR: > ERROR: INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2328: Mismatch token end (GlideSlope)! INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2024: Failed to process closing element tag <GlideSlope> near line 705! INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2607: Compilation errors detected, compilation failed! INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2034: XML Parse Fatal Error (line, column, error) ERROR: 1713, 0, Validate failed. INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2430: Unrecoverable error parsing XML! INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2006: Parse failed (0x80004005) PackageBuilder | Skip mirroring due to command failures.
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Can I ask how you captured the compiler output?
 
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scruffyduck said:
Can I ask how you captured the compiler output?
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If you are running the fspackagetool externally, it stays open in a console windows, if you right click and select 'Mark' you can left click+drag highlight the block you want and hit 'Enter' - it puts it on the clipboard (that is a standard way to copy output from a windows command/dos prompt window)
 
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Duh - so long since I needed to do that. Thanks
 
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In Dev move, click on Window in the menu at the top and select console. I clear the console before I click on build so I can see the output cleanly and then just copy it. It’s a bit clunky but you can hold down shift and select multiple lines.
 
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Thanks - I found that the console window has a lot of erroneous entries in it - but perhaps that is cleared up now?
 
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