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MSFS20 Custom Jetways

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Has anyone been able to make a custom jetway model work in the sim?

Or is it possible to change the textures of the default one as it seems like it doesn't come with a "glass" texture option?

Thanks it advance,
 
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I don't recall seeing a glass ramp default jetway at an airport in MSFS, but the folder:

...Packages\Official\OneStore\asobo-jetways\SimObjects\Landmarks\Aso_Jetway

does have the glTF model and glass ramp textures (which are also used a tad in the metal ramp model according to MCX). It's possible that it may work like liveries in aircraft.cfg, so if one adds a new flightsim.1 entry to sim.cfg pointing to the glass texture, one might have an alternative to creating a new package with a revised model and placing it in the Community folder. Else it seems like all the pieces are there to create a glass ramp.
 
I don't recall seeing a glass ramp default jetway at an airport in MSFS, but the folder:

...Packages\Official\OneStore\asobo-jetways\SimObjects\Landmarks\Aso_Jetway

does have the glTF model and glass ramp textures (which are also used a tad in the metal ramp model according to MCX). It's possible that it may work like liveries in aircraft.cfg, so if one adds a new flightsim.1 entry to sim.cfg pointing to the glass texture, one might have an alternative to creating a new package with a revised model and placing it in the Community folder. Else it seems like all the pieces are there to create a glass ramp.
Yes, there is that glass model but I think it's only a scenery object and not a simobject. I still don't understand how to make it work though. But I'll try your suggestion.
 
I finally got it working somewhat. I used the method mentioned by Jay and created a TEXTURE.GLASS folder that I added to a [fltsim.1]
I also used the Jetway in the sample as a base.
Unfortunately they didn't provide the max file so I had to use Substance painter and a delete all the parts I didn't want to paint on Blender so that I could export an FBX file and make a painting on top. I later used that as a layer in Gimp to replace the original Albedo texture of the jetway. It's long process but better than nothing. I'll eventually make my own jetway animation though. This was just a test.
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I'm probably still doing a lot of things wrong in this test model but I can at least export it and it's showing in the sim but no movements yet. The SDK is pretty lacking in explaining how to do this. I wish they at least included the max file.
test.PNG
 
Hello Sagga,

Great work! I'm still trying to figure out how to animate my custom jetways. Not an easy task :eek:
It's hard but I used the sample in the SDK and tweaked a few things. But the wheel animation is still not working though as in the base game. I also struggle a lot with the correct values of the glass transparency.
 
Well it wasn't hard I just had to copy it for the Chart on the right. It needs specific values I guess. The bottom is for the emissive with some values I tweaked.
glass.PNG
 
Finally got something working after 20 hours of frustration!

Hi me again :-)

Did you have any issues with the hood animation?

I opened the provided jetway sample MAX file and exported it, the jetway moves and attaches to the aircraft fine, but the hood will not work.

The funny thing is there is a low-res model in "MSFS SDK\Samples\Jetway\PackageSources\SimObjects\Landmarks\MyCompany_Jetway\model" and it works fine, but all 3 lods are low detail/low poly.

However, if I export the sample max in MSFS SDK\Samples\Jetway\Sources\Art\Max, it exports the same detailed and good looking jetway as the default one, however as mentioned, the hood will not extract.

One thing I should mention: When I opened MSFS SDK\Samples\Jetway\Sources\Art\Max\Jetway.max file all I could see was the list of the objects in the scene, I could not for the life of me get the viewports to show, so I merged the jetway.max file into a new file, I don't know if this could have broken the hood animation.

I've attached a jpg showing how the jetway.max appears after loading
jetwaymax.jpg
 
Hi me again :)

Did you have any issues with the hood animation?

I opened the provided jetway sample MAX file and exported it, the jetway moves and attaches to the aircraft fine, but the hood will not work.

The funny thing is there is a low-res model in "MSFS SDK\Samples\Jetway\PackageSources\SimObjects\Landmarks\MyCompany_Jetway\model" and it works fine, but all 3 lods are low detail/low poly.

However, if I export the sample max in MSFS SDK\Samples\Jetway\Sources\Art\Max, it exports the same detailed and good looking jetway as the default one, however as mentioned, the hood will not extract.

One thing I should mention: When I opened MSFS SDK\Samples\Jetway\Sources\Art\Max\Jetway.max file all I could see was the list of the objects in the scene, I could not for the life of me get the viewports to show, so I merged the jetway.max file into a new file, I don't know if this could have broken the hood animation.

I've attached a jpg showing how the jetway.max appears after loading
View attachment 63557
Hello,
Yes I did have issues with the hood not animating but I think it's because the animation groups were missing. I don't remember exactly how I solved it though. Also since you merged the files I think you're missing animation groups you could save them and re-import them as well.
But I have attached my Jetway.xml with everything working including the wheel rotation and orientation.
Your max file is not showing? I'm using Max 2020, so I don't know if that's why I have no problems. But you can always try to merge it and import animation groups as I just said. I also have the issue where sometimes flight sim materials don't show up so I have to merge the sample max files with brand new scenes.
 

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Hello,
Yes I did have issues with the hood not animating but I think it's because the animation groups were missing. I don't remember exactly how I solved it though. Also since you merged the files I think you're missing animation groups you could save them and re-import them as well.
But I have attached my Jetway.xml with everything working including the wheel rotation and orientation.
Your max file is not showing? I'm using Max 2020, so I don't know if that's why I have no problems. But you can always try to merge it and import animation groups as I just said. I also have the issue where sometimes flight sim materials don't show up so I have to merge the sample max files with brand new scenes.
Yep that's the same xml I extracted from the default jetway, only changed the guid on top obviously.

I managed to view the Jetway.max directly in max2017, it was a pest but I closed that scene list window. The thing is now that it gives export errors:

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Strange as this is the unedited jetway.max from the sdk 0.6.0 install which the documents lists as a 3ds max 2017 model.
 
How do I get that window? Under the Babylon menu there is one submenu called "babylon file exporter...", and in the FlightSim menu there are 3 options: "Material Tools", "Objects renamer" and "Babylon utilizities" with another submenu called "Create AnimationGroup From Selection" in which if I select it'll give a "maxscript macroscript error exception" window with the error: "--Runtime error: dotNet runtime exception: Failed to parse 1 node ids."

The error seems to be related to the "1 node ids" error I receive upon trying to export from the previous post.
 
Right click on the viewport to get the menu. I think your animation groups are not setup correctly.

Ok. Now when I try to open that menu I get this:

1602675045650.png


This "1 node ids" is appearing the error everywhere, but any search of it is useless

The full error details from the box above:

See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.Exception: Failed to parse 1 node ids.
at Max2Babylon.AnimationGroup.LoadFromData(String propertyName, IINode dataNode, Dictionary`2 rootNodePropDictionary)
at Max2Babylon.AnimationGroupList.LoadFromData(IINode dataNode)
at Max2Babylon.AnimationForm.AnimationForm_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnCreateControl()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl(Boolean fIgnoreVisible)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


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Upon clicking continue I'm greeted with an empty Animation Groups dialog:
1602675235688.png
 
Ok. Now when I try to open that menu I get this:

View attachment 63608

This "1 node ids" is appearing the error everywhere, but any search of it is useless

The full error details from the box above:

See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.Exception: Failed to parse 1 node ids.
at Max2Babylon.AnimationGroup.LoadFromData(String propertyName, IINode dataNode, Dictionary`2 rootNodePropDictionary)
at Max2Babylon.AnimationGroupList.LoadFromData(IINode dataNode)
at Max2Babylon.AnimationForm.AnimationForm_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnCreateControl()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl(Boolean fIgnoreVisible)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


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Upon clicking continue I'm greeted with an empty Animation Groups dialog:
View attachment 63609
That empty animation group is your problem. You can try to export the sample's animation groups and import it in this scene.
 
That empty animation group is your problem. You can try to export the sample's animation groups and import it in this scene.

The thing is, this is the sample Jetway.max file. I scrapped my "merged" max when I managed to open the sample, for some reason the scene explorer window was covering all the viewport space, once I removed it (see it to the right of the screen) the original jetway.max was showing the viewports. So this is in fact the unedited Jetway.max file from the 0.6.0 SDK
1602682695829.png
 
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