FSX Error: Funny Spoilers Effect

#1
Hello Guys,

I hope I'm right in this part of the forum - at least aircraft modellers might be able to give me a good clue how to solve this.

The problem: Spoilers on the left and right wing behave differently, most likely to any change which I don't remember. The funny thing: It's not one model, it's the same with all (jet) aircraft I checked yet, which are mostly default ones. The right side spoiler is always half open, when the left one is down. Activating them with # lets the right one go fully up, while the left one goes on half. There's no way anymore to bring them both down, or to arm them for landing.

Does anyone of you have an idea what might be wrong? Thank you very much,

Mick
 

Heretic

Resource contributor
#2
First of all, your problem has absolutely nothing to do with aircraft modeling, but is a general FSX issue. So this is the wrong forum.


Second, check your controller axis assignments or other input devices. Or FSUIPC settings.
 
#3
First of all: Thank you ;) Since there's no forum for "funny effects found on default models", I assumed that the modelers here would at least be able to give me a clue where to look. And look, even "the second worst FSX developer" (I wonder who would be the worst one :(... might be me) had a good hint on that :).

OK, I'm starting to check controller and keyboard assignments. If it's a general FSX issue, which I never had to face by now, I can at least start a search that makes sense now. I'll report on the issue here, ok? :wave:

Regards and thanks again
Mick
 

Heretic

Resource contributor
#4
Well, a rolling boulder can't be stopped that easily, so keep us posted. Maybe one of the mods can move this thread into the "General Discussion" subforum where it actually belongs.

If something occurs with all aircraft, it's a general FSX issue and as such, investigating common denominators, such as controller axis or FSX settings is the way to go.
 

rcbarend

Resource contributor
#5
Hello Guys,

I hope I'm right in this part of the forum - at least aircraft modellers might be able to give me a good clue how to solve this.

The problem: Spoilers on the left and right wing behave differently, most likely to any change which I don't remember. The funny thing: It's not one model, it's the same with all (jet) aircraft I checked yet, which are mostly default ones. The right side spoiler is always half open, when the left one is down. Activating them with # lets the right one go fully up, while the left one goes on half. There's no way anymore to bring them both down, or to arm them for landing.

Does anyone of you have an idea what might be wrong? Thank you very much,

Mick
If you observe this effect with the default B737-800: this sounds like the aileron axis not being calibrated properly (or having two controller axis assigned to the FS Aileron Axis).
With spoilers retracted, move aileron axis from fully left to fully right, and observe spoiler AND aileron animations (these are partly are coupled in the default B737).

Rob
 
#6
Hi again,

let's see if one of the mods moves the thread to where ever it fits best. Rob, it's not only the 737, it's 747-400 as well as other default jets (props I didn't try).

My first results: The controller axis seemed to be ok, but there's obviously an interference with the autopilot: After loading the flight with AP on (standard on most of my flights), pressing "z" brought the spoilers down (I can start/fly normal then)! Pressing "z" again switches on the AP and doesn't bring the spoilers back up.

Still a confusing situation, so further experiments shall be needed and reported.

Thank you for now
Mick
 

tgibson

Resource contributor
#8
When the AP is left on heading hold, you quit FS, and then you restart FS using something like a Previous Flight flight, the AP will try to turn the plane to the heading setting. That will lead to ailerons/spoilers being deflected. When you turn off the AP, they go back to the positions commanded by your yoke. When you turn the AP back on again, the heading hold mode is NOT engaged and thus no deflection occurs.

Hope this helps,
 
#9
Hello Guys,

thank you both for helping.

@Bjoern: That was the case, I had saved the standard flight with the AP on. Changed it, the effect disappeared.
@tgibson: Thank's for the explanation. Knowing this background, it even makes a lot of sense "trying to turn the plane to the heading setting".

It now looks like the problem is solved and the solution even understood ;)

Have a nice evening,
Mick
 
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